The future of PoE with Chris Wilson - Podcast with @Mathilification

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Cosmonaut111 wrote:

I would consider 99% of the forum and the community borderline bad at videogames.

1) Why dont you whiners make some builds yourself? You sit around and expect people to make builds for you , cuz you are simply not dedicated enough , not knowlegable enough or smart enough to do so.

2) GGG designs the skills with a "background" in mind. There are so many unique items out there with so many interactions that you can find which can make a build work , its just a insane ( almost endless ) amount of content that one can explore , yet people let convice themselfes that running Y build because streamer X did a build guide for it is best. Maybe you should stop EXPECTING to do all lategame with all bosses every time you boot up the game with a build , and simply experement around with "shit" skills and builds? Tuna said that before he made the cold conversion raider SST he even couldnt buy a ilvl86 hybrid shield on the market , BECAUSE THERE WAS LITERALLY NOONE SELLING IT. Suddenly it turned out to be one of the builds in the game , like it didnt exist before ( Im aware of glad bleed SST but the raider version is fundamentally diffirent ). Still this is a fundamental problem. People only craft and sell shit for the 1% top builds and then shit on GGG that balancing and builds are bad while all they do is adding oxygen to the "build diversity" fire

3) You cant expect 5-10 content creators to do all the work that 100000+ players should do. All people do in this forum and on reddit is sitting around , crying and waiting for the game to be "solved" before actually playing it. Running and figuring out league mechanic in story? NAH time waste. Better wait for youtuber X to make a video about it how to squezze every single chaos out of it , would be a total and unfun timewaste to try shit yourself( In a game that is designed around trying shit yourself ). Doing anything out of the norm seems to be a hard concept for a lot of people ( actually doing side content in story , not trying to rush T16 maps in 2 days into the league and then be bored for 10 weeks cuz you did everything the game has to offer , actually thinking about your own build , ACTUALLY THINKING and using your brain rather than follow robot like instuctions made by content creators on what to do )

Chris said multiple times that they design skills and uniques with something in mind. Lets take the maven uniques. People whine around that they are bad , but maybe there is simply no build involved using them because noone is trying? Its the same for every unique and skills. Ofc there are some "shitty" unusable uniques and skills in the game , but they mostly get buffed over time or serve a purpose anyway.

So anyway , keep whining , and i hope GGG keeps ignoring your whines. Just because you bought some supporter packs it doesnt make you good at the game or even being close to good

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Cosmonaut111 wrote:

I would consider 99% of the forum and the community borderline bad at videogames.

1) Why dont you whiners make some builds yourself? You sit around and expect people to make builds for you , cuz you are simply not dedicated enough , not knowlegable enough or smart enough to do so.

2) GGG designs the skills with a "background" in mind. There are so many unique items out there with so many interactions that you can find which can make a build work , its just a insane ( almost endless ) amount of content that one can explore , yet people let convice themselfes that running Y build because streamer X did a build guide for it is best. Maybe you should stop EXPECTING to do all lategame with all bosses every time you boot up the game with a build , and simply experement around with "shit" skills and builds? Tuna said that before he made the cold conversion raider SST he even couldnt buy a ilvl86 hybrid shield on the market , BECAUSE THERE WAS LITERALLY NOONE SELLING IT. Suddenly it turned out to be one of the builds in the game , like it didnt exist before ( Im aware of glad bleed SST but the raider version is fundamentally diffirent ). Still this is a fundamental problem. People only craft and sell shit for the 1% top builds and then shit on GGG that balancing and builds are bad while all they do is adding oxygen to the "build diversity" fire

3) You cant expect 5-10 content creators to do all the work that 100000+ players should do. All people do in this forum and on reddit is sitting around , crying and waiting for the game to be "solved" before actually playing it. Running and figuring out league mechanic in story? NAH time waste. Better wait for youtuber X to make a video about it how to squezze every single chaos out of it , would be a total and unfun timewaste to try shit yourself( In a game that is designed around trying shit yourself ). Doing anything out of the norm seems to be a hard concept for a lot of people ( actually doing side content in story , not trying to rush T16 maps in 2 days into the league and then be bored for 10 weeks cuz you did everything the game has to offer , actually thinking about your own build , ACTUALLY THINKING and using your brain rather than follow robot like instuctions made by content creators on what to do )

Chris said multiple times that they design skills and uniques with something in mind. Lets take the maven uniques. People whine around that they are bad , but maybe there is simply no build involved using them because noone is trying? Its the same for every unique and skills. Ofc there are some "shitty" unusable uniques and skills in the game , but they mostly get buffed over time or serve a purpose anyway.

So anyway , keep whining , and i hope GGG keeps ignoring your whines. Just because you bought some supporter packs it doesnt make you good at the game or even being close to good

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KinJin91 wrote:

@Cosmonaut111

1) I am sorry that I am working fulltime and not living in mommys basement and got 20 hours a day on my hand to play this game. I do not have the time to test 100 different things. I have better things to do.
And where am I whining ? Chris offered to show off or give us hints so I am just asking.

2) Look at 1)


3) "ACTUALLY THINKING and using your brain rather than follow robot like instructions made by content creators on what to do"

Said the guy playing Forbidden Rite totem .... Made my day xDD
Better hide your characters when making these kind of statements. Absolute troll.

Majority of "content creators" give us builds? Oh yea, pick raider/gladiator for max dodge/block and pick skill x and hold down the attack button. Ultra creative. Holy macaroni.



Long story short. You are not being good at this game either. Playing ultra meta overpowered Forbidden Rite trashtalking and trying to make an argument. Gimme a break.

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Anngrat wrote:

Ability to design your own build is heavily locked behind knowledge and time investment, gl in creating a new build if you play 2 hours max after work, spend a week or two to create useless garbage...

And we dont want to be good at this game, if it means that we need to inject houndreds of hours of learning(and a painful one) into our brains...

We want to launch a game and kill some things, if you wanna lock it behind grindwall, partyplay, breaking our brains in pob, anomalous difficulty - fine, you may have it, but as Olroth says only wasteland will be left, all casuals/semicasuals will leave the game...

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Cosmonaut111 wrote:

Actually i decided to play FR BEFORE any content creators caught on to the skill. I played dark pact totems several leagues before , and cleared all content with it and i liked the totem playstyle. When FR numbers were released it was clear that it was a "bonkers" version of dark pact. Just because some content creators deemed this skill as good doesnt mean that i jumped the bandwagon aswell. I also leaguestarted with it DESPITE the fact that all totem items were 10 times more expensive than in any previous league ( freaking rain of splinters was 100c when ex was 50:1 , viridis veil was 9ex etc ). I normally play "offmeta" buildguides ( preferably ones with more uniques than rares ) since i know that they are substantially cheaper to gear than a meta build

This was actually the first league where is theorycrafted the build myself ( with inspiration from dark pact build guides ) rather than jumping on a existing build guide. Look my version up , some items are just bad for the build , some clusters are non optimal etc. but i didnt care until i hit 40/40 to look up what i could do better with that build ( since is clears all content with this gear and even now i wont invest more than needed into it )