Inner Force

And so Inner Force applies to flask effects?

You see, clarification would be helpful. The first time I saw the term "buff" used in Inner Force, I wondered how broadly it was being used. No other game that I'm aware of considers detrimental effects on others to be "buffs", these are usually referrred to as "debuffs". If Inner Forcee said "All buffs and debuffs" it would be clearer. Learning after the fact that this is in fact the case only makes one wonder about all the other edge cases. That's why I suggested that clarification would be helpful.
Man does not stop playing because he grows old. He grows old because he stops playing. - Oliver Wendell Holmes
Off the top of my head, the full list is:
- Every aura
- The shield block from Tempest Shield
- The armor from Molten Shell
- The -damage and mana cost of Arctic Armour
- The damage to yourself and spell damage of Righteous Fire
- Resists/Max resists from Elemental Flasks
- Armor from Granite Flasks
- Movespeed from Quicksilver Flasks


Edit: Forgot Blood Rage.
Last edited by pneuma#0134 on Mar 28, 2013, 6:32:02 PM
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Winterfury wrote:
And so Inner Force applies to flask effects?

You see, clarification would be helpful. The first time I saw the term "buff" used in Inner Force, I wondered how broadly it was being used. No other game that I'm aware of considers detrimental effects on others to be "buffs", these are usually referrred to as "debuffs". If Inner Forcee said "All buffs and debuffs" it would be clearer. Learning after the fact that this is in fact the case only makes one wonder about all the other edge cases. That's why I suggested that clarification would be helpful.
There are two "debuffs" in the entire game that are affected by inner force.

Blood Rage
Righteous Fire

And that's because those "debuffs" are buffs with detrimental side effects. Seriously it's not that hard to conclude that buffs are "things that myself and allies apply to me".
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Add Arctic armor to that list with the mana puncture.
Forgot Arctic Armor applied the mana use as part of the buff.

So three "debuffs" that are actually buffs with negative effects.
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If Inner Force affects auras such as Wrath & Anger why does your dps not change after spending the points, dropping the existing auras and recasting them?

Has it ever been confirmed anywhere they it does affect these auras? I'm highly sceptical.
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RandallPOE wrote:
If Inner Force affects auras such as Wrath & Anger why does your dps not change after spending the points, dropping the existing auras and recasting them?

Has it ever been confirmed anywhere they it does affect these auras? I'm highly sceptical.
Tooltips are ridiculously finicky.
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Autocthon wrote:
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RandallPOE wrote:
If Inner Force affects auras such as Wrath & Anger why does your dps not change after spending the points, dropping the existing auras and recasting them?

Has it ever been confirmed anywhere they it does affect these auras? I'm highly sceptical.
Tooltips are ridiculously finicky.


Well this is true - which is why some clarification somewhere by a dev would be nice because there is a lot of conflicting information around.
oh nvm tested it myself and it does change, i'm sure it never used to
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RandallPOE wrote:
oh nvm tested it myself and it does change, i'm sure it never used to

It always did though, so there's that.

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