Why do we not have an exalted exhange like how STO has a dilithium exchange?

Granted this could work, but the cure is worse than the disease.

I was going to type up a long post here, but I'll just say that the absence of such a system is one of the things I like most about this game.

And the idea that a system like this will curb the profits of illicit RMT sites is simply untrue. RMT sites will simply undercut the GGG rates, and they'll do as much business as before.

Also, there's a huge difference between pay2win existing in the form of illicit RMT sites, and pay2win existing in the form of GGG coming right out and saying, "This is how our game is played: the more money you put in, the stronger a character you will have."

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Andromansis wrote:

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byubd wrote:

Every game is pay to win; the difference is who you'e paying. When GGG says they're against pay to win, they mean they're against paying them directly. The system you're proposing would involve paying GGG directly. Yes, the RMT sites thrive due to the lack of such an exchange, but that's the price GGG has to pay.

No. You'd be paying other players.

The only way to destruct those currencies is to use them. So you'd sell your exalt and get microtransaction points that would then be used to either buy another exalt or some things out of the micro shop, or you'd buy an exalt from another player for microtransaction points and you could either use that exalt or resell it on the exchange or trade it in trade for other currency.

So the methodology I am talking about is in and of itself completely nondestructive.

The microtransaction points come from paying GGG. If I buy microtransaction points, then trade them in for orbs, I have effectively paid GGG to acquire in-game wealth.

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Zerovirus27 wrote:

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Andromansis wrote:

Somebody asked me "Wouldn't that be pay to win?"

Well, it isn't like the RMT sites aren't.

So because something illegal (against game rules) is taking place it should be officially added to the game??


well theres plenty of people using hacks, should we add those features to the game too?


your logic is silly.

It actually depends on the feature. I can't really argue the merits of those without knowing what they are. Also that is a completely different discussion.

RMT sites are getting at least enough revenue to purchase a few other sites which we enjoyed using and can't talk about on the forums anymore. At the absolute very least it would cut deeply into their profit margin, and destroy the value of the stock they have on hand, it would allow GGG to dictate what those RMT prices should be within the confines on the game, and it would allow players an alternative to using that RMT site that is safer and more effective.

Its like the argument between doing heroin and doing heroin in a clinical environment. (E.G. a methadone clinic)

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byubd wrote:

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Andromansis wrote:

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byubd wrote:

Every game is pay to win; the difference is who you'e paying. When GGG says they're against pay to win, they mean they're against paying them directly. The system you're proposing would involve paying GGG directly. Yes, the RMT sites thrive due to the lack of such an exchange, but that's the price GGG has to pay.

No. You'd be paying other players.

The only way to destruct those currencies is to use them. So you'd sell your exalt and get microtransaction points that would then be used to either buy another exalt or some things out of the micro shop, or you'd buy an exalt from another player for microtransaction points and you could either use that exalt or resell it on the exchange or trade it in trade for other currency.

So the methodology I am talking about is in and of itself completely nondestructive.

The microtransaction points come from paying GGG. If I buy microtransaction points, then trade them in for orbs, I have effectively paid GGG to acquire in-game wealth.

No, you've paid GGG for their currency and then used that currency to purchase goods from other uses. Just like when you go to another country you get your currency exchanged for the local currency and then use that to buy room, board, and amenities.

People like you ruin the game. Go away.

i dont think the "if you cant beat them, join them" philosophy is the right solution

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Andromansis wrote:

No, you've paid GGG for their currency and then used that currency to purchase goods from other uses. Just like when you go to another country you get your currency exchanged for the local currency and then use that to buy room, board, and amenities.

Change the wording however you'd like -- end result is that I can pay GGG money and be wealthier in game as a direct result of this payment. This is what GGG is avoiding. They don't want you to exchange your currency for the local currency; they want you to get a job in the local area and earn it yourself.

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Andromansis wrote:

Its like the argument between doing heroin and doing heroin in a clinical environment. (E.G. a methadone clinic)

I'm gonna reply with my previous post, which seems to have been ignored.

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VoxelSquid wrote:

It's the "they're already doing it, so we might as well legalize and tax it" argument.

The thing with this type of argument is that it applies well to actions that don't harm other people, such as alcohol and tobacco, but not to actions that do harm others such as robbery and murder.

I think real money trading does harm other people, because it has the potential to screw up the economy and make it so that people who don't use it cant afford anything. This is similar to insider trading and fraud in real life, both of which do not work well with the "legalize and tax" argument.

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xxxmetalgearxxx wrote:

People like you ruin the game. Go away.

People like me? Not the people running the RMT site? Not the people selling or buying things to and from the RMT site? Me? The guy that has presented a conceptually proven and effectively implemented in other games and BEGGED for a better solution?