Consistent Lag spikes linked to specefic Australian backhaul internet provider

This ain't a specific Aus backhaul nor is the unplayable latency at peek hours a new thing to PoE.

Been 7 years more or less here, and PoE always had this issues with some ISP's, it used to be mostly weak EU connections to suffer from this.

Somehow this ONLY happens with PoE, and I've never heard of a game that it would become unplayable once 20pm hits or any other hour.

For sure peek hours change latency in every internet game, at least this was the case back in 2005.

Support blames weak ISP's, and they are right in a way. ISP's blame the game, and they are also right because this doesn't happen with other services/games.

not a rant, just trying to share some notes.
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Quite difficult to play like this...
https://gyazo.com/a2eb5224c8849a2dcb8784fb64ff6bb3
The fact that this still hasn't been resolved makes me sad. It's one of the main reasons I am not playing Blight league. If this latency spike issue isn't resolved, I may never return to PoE... :(
Australian NBN internet really sucks for latency based gaming during peak as RSPs do not prioritise the packets that PoE uses. If you're getting lag spikes during peak (7-11 PM) may I suggest it is likely to be your Retail Service Provider (RSP).

I had spikes with Skymesh. I was able to trial an Aussie Broadband (ABB) NBN connection to my second router port. The problem was gone immediately as ABB monitor their traffic during peak and over subscribe on CVC bandwidth. They're so good you can actually publicly see the allocation for your exchange.

I don't work for ABB but I'm telling all Aussie bros to churn or trial them if they want to play in lockstep during peak. I'm in a HC guild and many of my guildies have churned to ABB and no longer have this problem.

Good luck, Exiles, there is a solution beyond GGG tech support!
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Edit** My bad, wrong thread
Last edited by shayrevitt on Sep 18, 2019, 5:05:27 AM
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shayrevitt wrote:
My ping has been pretty stable, only as of today has the ping shot up to ~150-200ms (up from my ususal 30-50ms). I have tested this from 2 different locations (same provider) with no change to the ping issue. I will post the winMTR log below. It seems to be the connection to IX on GGG's side. I work for my ISP (Matilda Internet) and am on a 100/40 NBN Fiber to the Premises connection. If there is any tests/solutions you need an ISP to run I should be able to do so.

WinMTR result:

|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| router.asus.com - 0 | 418 | 418 | 1 | 3 | 24 | 1 |
| vt-loopback-10.bne.matilda.net.au - 0 | 418 | 418 | 15 | 19 | 35 | 16 |
| vlan2.bne-core1.matilda.net.au - 0 | 418 | 418 | 16 | 21 | 93 | 19 |
| ip-120-88-74-34.onqcomms.net - 0 | 418 | 418 | 16 | 26 | 360 | 17 |
| vl624.ether3.core02.bne.onqnetworks.net - 1 | 414 | 413 | 16 | 21 | 47 | 19 |
| as36351.nsw.ix.asn.au - 1 | 414 | 413 | 166 | 176 | 204 | 168 |
| f6.12.2da9.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com - 1 | 414 | 413 | 166 | 173 | 195 | 167 |
| 7.13.2da9.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com - 1 | 414 | 413 | 167 | 173 | 193 | 171 |
| eb.10.35a9.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com - 1 | 403 | 399 | 186 | 191 | 212 | 198 |
| ae5.dar01.mel01.networklayer.com - 1 | 414 | 413 | 178 | 184 | 219 | 181 |
| po1.fcr01b.mel01.networklayer.com - 1 | 414 | 413 | 185 | 192 | 210 | 189 |
| speedtest.mel01.softlayer.com - 1 | 414 | 413 | 178 | 185 | 212 | 179 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider


Sigh.. your issue is an entirely different one to the issue that this thread pertains to. Wish people would read the thread before posting..
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|

| WinMTR statistics |

| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |

|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|

| dsldevice.lan - 0 | 77 | 77 | 1 | 2 | 39 | 1 |

| 95.68.48.1 - 0 | 77 | 77 | 2 | 48 | 1108 | 3 |

| 195.122.0.154 - 0 | 77 | 77 | 2 | 47 | 1105 | 5 |

| bbr01.eq01.ams01.networklayer.com - 0 | 77 | 77 | 29 | 73 | 1106 | 34 |

| ae5.cbs01.eq01.ams02.networklayer.com - 30 | 37 | 26 | 31 | 118 | 1530 | 36 |

| 31.10.35a9.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com - 0 | 77 | 77 | 37 | 80 | 1107 | 39 |

| 7.10.35a9.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com - 0 | 77 | 77 | 36 | 79 | 1102 | 39 |

| 8f.76.b19e.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com - 0 | 77 | 77 | 32 | 76 | 1107 | 32 |

| cf.76.b19e.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com - 0 | 77 | 77 | 32 | 76 | 1102 | 34 |

| speedtest.fra02.softlayer.com - 0 | 77 | 77 | 32 | 75 | 1105 | 34 |

|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|

WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider

Recently game became unplayable. Those lag spikes every 15s-20s are deadly for smooth gameplay. So annoying that i can't play anymore without stressing...

Please fix those network problems. At this time i see that the main issue is with ae5.cbs01.eq01.ams02.networklayer.com
For first time this league i experience problems with amsterdam realm.
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| 192.168.178.1 - 98 | 42 | 1 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 |
| No response from host - 100 | 41 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| ht-rc0001-cr102-ae121-0.core.as9143.net - 0 | 206 | 206 | 10 | 14 | 35 | 12 |
|asd-tr0021-cr101-be152-2.core.as33915.net - 0 | 206 | 206 | 12 | 15 | 31 | 16 |
| nl-ams14a-ri1-ae51-0.aorta.net - 0 | 206 | 206 | 12 | 18 | 42 | 13 |
| 213.46.182.178 - 0 | 206 | 206 | 12 | 16 | 39 | 14 |
| ae5.cbs02.eq01.ams02.networklayer.com - 33 | 89 | 60 | 13 | 16 | 34 | 14 |
| ae6.dar01.ams01.networklayer.com - 0 | 206 | 206 | 13 | 17 | 35 | 15 |
| po1.fcr01.sr01.ams01.networklayer.com - 2 | 199 | 197 | 12 | 21 | 182 | 13 |
| speedtest.ams01.softlayer.com - 0 | 206 | 206 | 11 | 14 | 35 | 13 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|
WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider

Same as above guy: ae5.cbs02.eq01.ams02.networklayer.com is not behaving well.
The force is strong in the power of the thorns!
Don't worry AUS your not the only ones, and it's not provider bound:

US East realm, usually 20-30ms ping. past week every time I've signed on consistent lag spikes over 300ms ping.

It's so bad my character just stops moving. It's to the point I thought my mouse was fucking up, but no .. it's the game.

4.0 will be trash, this game is trash, clearly a team here that couldn't give two shits about the quality of their product.

I'm done, moving on to developers that ACTUALLY DESERVE THE OBSCENE AMOUNT OF MONEY I've given to this game.

Triggered, .. yes I am. literally 60+ hours grinding a level to have it all wasted by UNCONTROLLABLE DEATHS.
Last edited by JediWabbit on Nov 14, 2019, 3:08:48 PM
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Somebi wrote:
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|

| WinMTR statistics |

| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |

|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|

| dsldevice.lan - 0 | 77 | 77 | 1 | 2 | 39 | 1 |

| 95.68.48.1 - 0 | 77 | 77 | 2 | 48 | 1108 | 3 |

| 195.122.0.154 - 0 | 77 | 77 | 2 | 47 | 1105 | 5 |

| bbr01.eq01.ams01.networklayer.com - 0 | 77 | 77 | 29 | 73 | 1106 | 34 |

| ae5.cbs01.eq01.ams02.networklayer.com - 30 | 37 | 26 | 31 | 118 | 1530 | 36 |

| 31.10.35a9.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com - 0 | 77 | 77 | 37 | 80 | 1107 | 39 |

| 7.10.35a9.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com - 0 | 77 | 77 | 36 | 79 | 1102 | 39 |

| 8f.76.b19e.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com - 0 | 77 | 77 | 32 | 76 | 1107 | 32 |

| cf.76.b19e.ip4.static.sl-reverse.com - 0 | 77 | 77 | 32 | 76 | 1102 | 34 |

| speedtest.fra02.softlayer.com - 0 | 77 | 77 | 32 | 75 | 1105 | 34 |

|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|

WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider

Recently game became unplayable. Those lag spikes every 15s-20s are deadly for smooth gameplay. So annoying that i can't play anymore without stressing...

Please fix those network problems. At this time i see that the main issue is with ae5.cbs01.eq01.ams02.networklayer.com


What issue are you seing here -->
ae5.cbs01.eq01.ams02.networklayer.com - 30 | 37 | 26 | 31 | 118 | 1530 | 36 |
There are no packet loss here. What you see is a internet device with icmp prioritization policy.

However if you look here -->
95.68.48.1 - 0 | 77 | 77 | 2 | 48 | 1108 | 3 |
This is the first hop = the connection from your house to your ISP's network.
Here you have latency spikes up to 1108 ms. I mean WTF ??? How can you miss that one???

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