shavronne's wrappings imbalanced

This is a level 74 regular build.



Elemental adaption + Purity = 84% res. RF will do 16% max life per second.
2.5% passive regen + 1.5% vitality = 4% ES regen.


Also, since you no longer need HP on your items, it will be much cheaper to gear up.

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Invalesco wrote:

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Zealflare wrote:

^Sneaky, not mentioning being able to use auras on life with the blood magic chest and be able to make use of low-life mods like PA and blood rage, and also being able to run RF. =P

that is abusing an exploit (covenant chest) which I am fully against and which I expect to be fixed eventually anyway and when that happens it'll be redundant :p

Also, being able to utilise low-life mods such as PA will indeed increase the DPS further but will do nothing to improve survivability. Blood Rage's low life mod is only useful for non-casters who won't be using RF anyway so not much reason to lump the 2 together imo. :p

You can still use a BM gem (x1.96) with reduced mana (x0.71) and use 1 40% (56%) aura plus 1-2 flat cost auras (discipline/clarity) to achieve the same low life requirement. Yea, made a mistake on the Blood Rage part.

To be honest, a fully decked out Shavronne's Wrappings pure ES caster will pretty much have the same survivability issues as CI (75% chaos resist vs chaos immune), while having much more benefits. A Kaom's caster would have better survivability overall, yes (high resist to elemental statuses, ability to use pots) but lose out on a LOT more damage.

At the very least, CI would still benefit a melee build better than a SW user, if only due to the Melee Damage on Full Life gem (krip's old sweep CI templar). Then again, CI + Melee is quite a suicidal route to go about ATM.

The core issue with SW is not so much with the item itself, it is the fact that CI has very little to offer compared to a life based Kaoms user or a SW ES caster/trapper. A little bit of buffs here and there (perhaps a +15% MORE ES multiplier/exclusive node connected to CI to use ES for elemental status calculation), or perhaps more Full Life buffs/support gems and then CI wouldn't look so terrible compared to its current state.

i certainly wouldn't mind some buffs to CI ;)

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Invalesco wrote:

i certainly wouldn't mind some buffs to CI ;)

teehee same here :)

I did read it, but the chaos damage does not bypass energy shield is not OP, it's only useful for low-life builds, which face it, was impossible before in HC. at least now it'll be doable. It'll only be OP if you invest well in gear, in which it'll require much more investment in gear as compared to CI builds and other conventional HP builds.[/quote]

No it´s not just OP for low life builds. To give a random example, look at Invalesco RF HC build. Another fine find of yours, with extreme spell boost at the cost of vulnerability to chaos. With Shavronne´s its like putting kevlar on Achiles´ heels. You can exchange hp nodes for spell dmg nodes to gain an even new extreme dmgwise or put them into es to get the flat regen ratio tilting the scales. And, as mentioned before, reserving life for another aura or two.
Ofcourse you know all this and if there´s anyone who´d deserve a lil NHL icing on his cake it´s you. But you got to admit that Shavronne´s breaks the game, low life or not.(yes I assume ppl like to invest in nice gear)
Hence Shavronne´s should not be allowed to work with zealoth´s oath or at all.

Can you tell what drawbacks it has for normal builds. Did chaos damage was cut in half and not issue to anyone but low life build anymore? Does that unique has debilating effect ruining non low life build? Oh and 20% quality shevrone is 660 so 800 is not double, it is ~20% more And all chaos damage just hits health. It is just best iitem in slot for all ES builds, not because of it's ES, but rather because of it's Effect.

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B_TAHKE wrote:

Can you tell what drawbacks it has for normal builds. Did chaos damage was cut in half and not issue to anyone but low life build anymore? Does that unique has debilating effect ruining non low life build? Oh and 20% quality shevrone is 660 so 800 is not double, it is ~20% more And all chaos damage just hits health. It is just best iitem in slot for all ES builds, not because of it's ES, but rather because of it's Effect.

There are only 2 builds that stack so much ES: CI and PA builds. CI has no use for it and PA direly needed it. That's why it's only good for PA builds. It's not imbalanced or OP, it just made a niche build actually practical and not complete suicide.

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casval776 wrote:

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B_TAHKE wrote:

Can you tell what drawbacks it has for normal builds. Did chaos damage was cut in half and not issue to anyone but low life build anymore? Does that unique has debilating effect ruining non low life build? Oh and 20% quality shevrone is 660 so 800 is not double, it is ~20% more And all chaos damage just hits health. It is just best iitem in slot for all ES builds, not because of it's ES, but rather because of it's Effect.

There are only 2 builds that stack so much ES: CI and PA builds. CI has no use for it and PA direly needed it. That's why it's only good for PA builds. It's not imbalanced or OP, it just made a niche build actually practical and not complete suicide.

So if you are not on low life chaos damage is already ineffective,does it deals damage based on your hp absent,and not problem for other? What you rather have extra 400ES or 2-3k extra temporary hp against chaos damage? And CI is not nearly as good as this unique. Sure chaos immunity (now remove all chaos resistance on tree and items). How I should exploit it? You see CI gives the same as this unique , andas price for almaust usless chaos immunity it takes all your life and inability to use pain attunement. Giving nothing in return.

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B_TAHKE wrote:

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casval776 wrote:

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B_TAHKE wrote:

Can you tell what drawbacks it has for normal builds. Did chaos damage was cut in half and not issue to anyone but low life build anymore? Does that unique has debilating effect ruining non low life build? Oh and 20% quality shevrone is 660 so 800 is not double, it is ~20% more And all chaos damage just hits health. It is just best iitem in slot for all ES builds, not because of it's ES, but rather because of it's Effect.

There are only 2 builds that stack so much ES: CI and PA builds. CI has no use for it and PA direly needed it. That's why it's only good for PA builds. It's not imbalanced or OP, it just made a niche build actually practical and not complete suicide.

So if you are not on low life chaos damage is already ineffective,does it deals damage based on your hp absent,and not problem for other? What you rather have extra 400ES or 2-3k extra temporary hp against chaos damage? And CI is not nearly as good as this unique. Sure chaos immunity (now remove all chaos resistance on tree and items). How I should exploit it? You see CI gives the same as this unique , andas price for almaust usless chaos immunity it takes all your life and inability to use pain attunement. Giving nothing in return.

Um, what? If you're running a PA build, you're running at max 35% of your HP at all times. Chaos damage is even moreso a threat at that point because your HP is ridiculously low. If you're running PA, you're obviously not picking up life nodes either, you're pumping as much into your ES as you can. So, it only makes sense that this item would be the perfect answer to the PA problem: Chaos damage.

Other builds can get away without it because they're picking up as much chaos res as they can in their gear or have absurdly more defenses to deal with it: not having 65% HP reserved at all times.

This item doesn't make CI any less powerful either. People seem to have the idea that ever since the ES nerf on CI, it's total garbage now. Why was it so popular before? Because you didn't have to maintain good equips to achieve high ES. You actually have to work for your equips now instead of picking up any PoS item with ES and reaching 4K with ease. This item isn't a replacement for CI nor is it better than CI, it's a niche item. The unique mod on the item is the only real reason to pick it up since the other stats are only decent.

I agree. And the only real problem is the "HELLO, DOUBLE DAMAGE" on righteous fire.

It's way too strong. Not the chest itself.