shavronne's wrappings imbalanced
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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUABVuLjOFz7SBG113G3fNgbZ2AgzgUTQSzAnGBb548TdiMdny7JIs9D8T2J-3z3Rku2WFqHqgY8i9E52o7IPAc57nd7w7nUlRJXz_2SIzPUFCsqlnzwBpmnqmVcH1PfYBWcU2az0NjtzFY9Z3EPC3Grrc-erhs9oLkkBGKr9pilKBodFcN0iGezacwAec26GSjGlVhIYTvdO1672BLBS3EWCfVm4NT31jbhNllTUd-q8VBh4LHKPrr7riTDH0Qf8aehEg8jgFvV8k0CpUgRnG0DJMnN2YspqbrN4PquvrS98E= That's 7.4% from passives right there as well as +113% to all resistances. Lets face it, you'll be running Vitality, Purity and Righteous Fire too, meaning you'd be at +148% to all resistances from passives and buffs, and have 9.4% ES regen plus the 7% from gear, for a total maximum of 16.4% regeneration. You also have +188% energy shield from passives and another at least another 28.4% from Intellect, a total of +216% minimum, meaning that for 4.5k ES you need only 1144ES from gear (and 279 from Discipline Aura). Shavronne's is giving about 500 at 20% quality so picking up 644 combined from Helm, Gloves, Boots, Belt and 2x Rings is easily done. That's 738ES regen per second. That comes to about the equivilent of an 8k - 8.5k Hit Point player who must take Kaom's heart to achieve those health regen results. Taking all those health regen nodes however doesn't allow them to stack Righteous Fire on top of their character with 113% more (multiplicative) damage. This build also lends itself perfectly to Iron Will support gem in place of where the 8k - 8.5k character would normally have a Blood Magic support gem (and be using their mana to run Auras). IGN: Annassassin
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" Are you lvl 92 without any bandit rewards? Why people plans things on very very very very very very late game? And you can't sustain righteous fire, you don't have pain attunment. Heavy damages! Low ES max (no shield and 450 ES chest), and since you have only 35% of your max hp, i guess you will be wrecked hard by bursty things. Last edited by Keyen#4575 on Mar 9, 2013, 9:15:17 AM
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" The thing is that this build because of the number of points invested will be extremely hard to achieve, especially since you didn't pick up any dex nodes which you will require for mana leech and LMP/GMP since you didn't pick up any mana nodes. Also, I'm at 106% increased max HP and am sitting at 2k HP. You have 72% increased HP with far more strength and will likely sit at around 1.8k HP or so. With RF, you'll be taking 351 damage per second, resulting in an overall net ES regen of only 382 ES regen/sec. Also, you will have to be dependent on 2 uniques: araku tiki ammy and springleaf, and with the inability to leech ES or use flasks, your ES will not be easily sustained. Since you're talking about a character using this unique, it's only fair to compare it with a HP character using Kaom's Heart. By using Kaom's Heart without the need for other uniques, one can easily get up to 9k+ HP with similar HP regen + the ability to use health flasks + the ability to leech life from skills. Comparing 9k HP versus 1.8k HP + 4.5k ES as a damage buffer, by numbers alone the Kaoms Heart HP build will be superior. On top of that, because you'll need to stack ES as a ZO user, your gear will likely be pure ES gear, whereas the Kaoms Heart build can stack armour gear with +life mods on the other gear pieces, leading to a much higher overall effective HP. Add to that the fact that 9k HP practically renders you invulnerable to status ailments and stuns whereas a 1.8k HP is considered low enough to cause you to be stun-vulnerable as well as prone to prolonged status ailments, I still believe that Kaoms Heart as a HP unique is far superior to its ES unique counterpart Edit: DPS-wise, the Kaoms Heart build can afford to use high DPS staves such as Taryn's Shiver and Searing Touch to boost their damage and bridge the gap between themselves and RF users using your build template. That said, they probably still won't be able to outdps RF builds unless the RF build in question does not use a high DPS wand or redbeak (yet another unique). However, I'm a firm believer that a dead player deals no DPS and even despite doing such high damage, your lack of survivability + inability to leech means that your overall defence versus normal mobs as well as reflect mobs is very much lacking as compared to Kaoms Heart users Build of the Week 14 The first Righteous Fire/Non-Shavronne's/Shavronne's HC Shameless self-proclaimed theory-crafting extraordinaire and forum crusader Last edited by Invalesco#7360 on Mar 9, 2013, 9:25:23 AM
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^Sneaky, not mentioning being able to use auras on life with the blood magic chest and be able to make use of low-life mods like PA and blood rage, and also being able to run RF. =P
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Can't wait for threads popping up that hate on the small light radius when on low life. :D
Plus the chest already has a downside, it has always thorns. |
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" that is abusing an exploit (covenant chest) which I am fully against and which I expect to be fixed eventually anyway and when that happens it'll be redundant :p Also, being able to utilise low-life mods such as PA will indeed increase the DPS further but will do nothing to improve survivability. Blood Rage's low life mod is only useful for non-casters who won't be using RF anyway so not much reason to lump the 2 together imo. :p Build of the Week 14
The first Righteous Fire/Non-Shavronne's/Shavronne's HC Shameless self-proclaimed theory-crafting extraordinaire and forum crusader |
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i thought this thread was about a new unique being imbalanced, not about comparing it to others for a specific side advantage, which isn´t part of why the thread was created in the first place...
read my thread if you actually believe that this unique isn´t all defying; http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/238077/page/1#p2042900 |
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4356 ES Required lvl 100 and 150str hp = 580. "Araku tiki" +(40) HP average roll.
max lvl vitality 1.5% HP regeneration,regeneration nodes 1.2%. Purity 5%max resist. Or "Eye of Chayula" 4468 ES required lvl 100 464 hp total. and stun Immunity. maximum resistance 80% for 1/5 burning damage 138% increased ES. and 65% Increased ES from shield. 450 ES from chest -> 20% quality is 540 ES from chest 1290 ES from chest only. Get good ES focus, ~550 Focus(3 mods 150% and 100 local ES...Ok quite avarage)-> 20% quality 660. 165% ES from shields 660*1.65=1089. Increased ES-> 2591 ES. Or 660*3.03=1999 ES if Deffences o shield additive with others. it is 3289-3881 ES from 2 items. No worries there more ES nodes and defences on shield nodes for hardly 73 points build and gloves,boots,helmet untouched. While calculations made for lvl 100. and all this for 114% more damage. Or you just can wear it as every normal build and get benefits from ES blocking chaos damage. Laughing at CI as silly node. build Am I made somwhere mistake? Edit: "Ephemeral Edge" is "redbeak" for ethereal knifes (but 10% reduced hp, and 40-50% increased ES, for 3910 ES required total) Last edited by B_TAHKE#5476 on Mar 9, 2013, 1:06:10 PM
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" I did read it, but the chaos damage does not bypass energy shield is not OP, it's only useful for low-life builds, which face it, was impossible before in HC. at least now it'll be doable. It'll only be OP if you invest well in gear, in which it'll require much more investment in gear as compared to CI builds and other conventional HP builds. Build of the Week 14
The first Righteous Fire/Non-Shavronne's/Shavronne's HC Shameless self-proclaimed theory-crafting extraordinaire and forum crusader |
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double the ES, chaos resist, life the only thing this unique has going for it is its chaos damage mod (which, granted, is very strong) Beyond league.
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