[3.5] CheeQu's CoC Ice Nova Assassin - Up to 7m Shaper DPS + Amazing Clearspeed [In-Depth Guide]

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mrpetrov wrote:
Two things, for those of you moving onto uber elder, and finding it difficult to complete with cyclone - give blade flurry a try.

Next thing, can we talk about how cyclone crits?

I've been playing around with both cyclone and BF, and while cyclone does hit twice per attack (as we know, hence the halved aps thresholds compared to BF and other one-hit-per-attack-skills), its crit chance is still, afaik, determined only *once per attack* (not once per hit!).

You can see the difference when you are cycloning around with around a 90% crit chance - quite often (one in ten times, feels like more!) you will just cyclone through a group of mobs without anything happening. And then bam, all the mobs will get deleted as your two hits (one attack) crits on the next attack.

By contrast, blade flurry determines crits once per hit (and once per attack, as it only hits once per attack). With your BF at 6aps, you very rarely get a situation where, for the length of a cyclone animation, you don't get a crit.

BF feels smoother as a result, with less spikey damage - to me at least.

tldr:
- BF at 6aps hits just as often as cyclone at 3aps
- BF at 6aps has twice as many crit rolls as cyclone at 3aps (b/c cyclone determines crits once per attack, not once per hit)
- BF feels smoother as a result with less spikey damage pops
- Cyclone baseline damage is much more sensitive to diamond flask uptime than BF


I like to farm t16 until spawning uber elder and kill him then repeat. Ive almost bought everything for this build but havent tried it yet. Going the god tier route with acuity, cd belt, unnatural instinct and meeks. Is there a way to swap to BF for bosses without having to switch a ton of items? How would you recommend doing this?

Or is just going BF over cyclone for everything a possibility?
Are we only supposed to have 3 frost bolts firing from our cospris? (With frozen trail ofc)
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GeneralDurph wrote:
Are we only supposed to have 3 frost bolts firing from our cospris? (With frozen trail ofc)

yes
lads I think I have some trouble and some time I got oneshot XD and the damage is not very high, some suggest?
Hey there boyz i really enjoy the build so far, can i get a gear check and point me to future upgrades (i have the Mark of the Shaper in my stash, just need to hit 80)
In guide sections its told that we can cast BV while sycloning but for some reason i cant?
Is there a reason why we cant replace the shield for an other one hand mulimod weapon? Was thinking hits cant be evaded, trigger sockeded gems(auto cast vortex), and non-choas dms as extra damage with spell% on a shapet opal sceptor with 20% elemental dmg as extra chaos dmg. That would make dmg go up to a an other lvl. But I might be missing something:) Going to try to puch it in on path of building when I come home. Only losing 15% block and some life and gaining probably massive dps, 10% atk speed and quality of life with vortex.
Last edited by Nordatheman on Jan 12, 2019, 6:47:59 AM
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Nordatheman wrote:
Is there a reason why we cant replace the shield for an other one hand mulimod weapon? Was thinking hits cant be evaded, trigger sockeded gems(auto cast vortex), and non-choas dms as extra damage with spell% on a shapet opal sceptor with 20% elemental dmg as extra chaos dmg. That would make dmg go up to a an other lvl. But I might be missing something:) Going to try to puch it in on path of building when I come home. Only losing 15% block and some life and gaining probably massive dps, 10% atk speed and quality of life with vortex.


Hits cant be evaded only applies to the weapon its crafted on and it also wouldnt proc any spell in your cospris.
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stauch3r wrote:
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premierunio wrote:
Guys and it happens :(!

T16 phoenix (alched)/ Masterminds liar/Xoph/Tul became impossible to do.
I dont know what i screwed but i have not enough leech of hp now and not enough DPS to do any of those things, also realized- my DPS went down, just put 2 jewels in my tree.

Got 3APS with cyclone, 24.5% crit chance, after killing mobs 45.5% crit chance, crit multi is decent 434%.

Can sm1 look on my tree and EQ and tell me where im missing that much dps that i cant do those endgame bosses and why my clearspeed (i dont oneshot normal mobs as it was) went down?
Characted on betrayal is: Papierzax

Please Guys help with some wise tips.


you dont skill power charge nodes!!!!! very simple lol


You want to say if i dont have +1 power charge thats the reason i dont have enough dps?
Im loving this build. So bloody amazing.
I suggest all of you to get vaal purity of ice for bosses. Their cold resistance becomes 0 for 3 seconds and you do massive damage. Really good against bosses that do cold damage as well

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