[3.5] Budget Molten Tank//7k-8k HP//ALL CONTENT//Uber Elder Farmer (Cham/Glad/Jugg)

--->SHAPER BEAM TANK<---

--->SHAPER SLAM TANK<---

--->CHAYULA TANK<---


[3.5] Change Change, No Nerf
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In a few words: less number of balls, more base damage

-Wildfire is now limited to 1 - No problem, put instead a rare jew with life and dps.
-Grelwood Shank now has 185-215% (up from 170-190%) HYPE no comment.
-Molten strike now deals 120% of base damage at gem level 1, and 161% of base damage (up from 147%) at gem level 20 - HYPE again.(The nerf is on the price that is higer now)
-Projectiles deal 40% less damage at gem level 1, and 30% less damage (from 40%) at gem level 20.
-Molten enchant now has 2 additional projectiles from the Eternal Labyrinth (down from 3) - I personaly never used MS balls enchant in league( have it only in std) and i did a lot of uber elder carry without that. ( probably this change will drop the price of that ench )
-War banner is OP




[3.4] Change WE GOT A BUFF - 2 extra points
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Few tree change near holy dominion, we save 2 points on the new tree.
We can grab 2 extra life nodes or grab new jew socket


Please post your answer here in the thread, so that everyone can see it

Hey guys, always Dave for another super budget build!

Im very honored that my build is inside LiftingNerdBro's video "awesome Betrayal league starter" .



There are many similar builds, but I wanted to create one of my own and the best choice (for me) is still the Champion. ( tried also Juggernat and gladiator and they work very well too... if u wanna farm Uber elder very very eazy go for jugg )

The guide is divide in 2 section:
First a budget version with all the explanations of the mechanics. With which you can start the league and do all content ( except uber atziri/ uber elder, you need more then 150c build for these bosses :D ). You can run easy all maps t15, Guardians, Shaper and farm currency( as you can see in the video section ).
Then an improve section with a more expencive gear. With which you can run eazy all bosses even uber atziri - uber elder.

Why again champion and why molten strike

After Vaal Pact nerf i always try to create a tank build with a decent DPS:
With molten strike we spawn a lot of balls and the "life gain on hit" mechanic allows us to gain a lot of life in a few time.
The champion ascendancy allows us to get 100% chance to hit save us the crit chance for elemental overload Keystone for more damage.
The perma stun immunity and fortify.

Classes Variant
READ BEFORE ALL CHAMPION GUIDE FOR ALL MECHANICS
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Molten strike probably is my favourite skill - very good clear speed for melee with ancestrall call - very good boss dps - after vaal pact is the best sustain with LGOH so im having fun to trying some variants.

Gladiator edition
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Difference from Champion
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-Less damage but more tank: 82%/82% block - LGOH from projectiles plus 300 life gain on block( 250 from shield 50 from anvil )
-Can be played with sword/shield or DW too
-Stun immunity on block
-If you can get rare with some accuracy its better
-With Yugul pantheon and some care you can run ele ref ( ref can be blocked )



Gear in Delve
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+ The Surrender isnt mandatory you can use Lioneye's Remorse.
+Look for Dying Sun you dont need the freez and crit flask.
+Instead of Tabula rasa you can use Loreweave for extra max res-phys/ele damage - stats or The Perfect Form that have a good interaction with iron reflex( stacking more cold res ) for more armour and free arctic armour or the evergreen Belly Of The Beast for more life.
+Anvil for more block or Xoph's for more damage



Ascendancy/Tree
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Painforged
Versatile Combatant
Violent Retaliation
Outmatch and Outlast


POB:
https://pastebin.com/MqkhytxE




Conclusion
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Definitely this variant is very tanky, but the damage on T16 bosses is so low.
Champion works better on budget, with gladiator you need a few more investment for good damage.
Never try Uber Elder / Uber Atziri on this variant but with a better gear then mine is possible, if you like full block I think this is a funny build, isnt the the usual molten strike build.
If you want more damage go for normal champion version. Champion has a good balance on damage and survability.



Video

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Full Shaper ( super lazy playstyle )
-As you can see the dmg its ok but not the best
-7.000 hp on gladiator its very cool ( never saw it on glad )
-Chance to hit is 83%, for more dps need accuracy on ring ( versatility keystone help ) 90% will be great
-And ofc 75%/75% block
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6HMDmxRq_o&feature=youtu.be

Facetank Phoenix - extra cold damge - monster life / endurance / extra life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xFw5OMAphg&t=12s




Juggernaut edition
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On this variant there arent so many things to say its very very similar.

-We have freez/chill immunity from ascendancy so we can run another helm, i choose starkonja ( attack speed-crit chance-up to 100 life- high dex ) or rare with -#% enemy fire res, res, life.
-We have temp Chain immunity w/out kaom root ( i love this )
-We save 5 points from duelist start path, we grab versatility for int/dex/accuracy and we can choose to grab another jew socket near RT or more life points.
-Few less damage / few more HP on the same gear. ( Hit 8100hp in delve )

Gear in Delve

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LITTLE UPGREADE
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Reach 8.100 hp on lvl 97

Drop starkonja for rare helm with -9% enemy fire res / high life / wed
Got xoph's blood = more life and more damage

Still running lab for molten ench








Ascendancy/Tree

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1-Unstoppable
2-Undeniable
3-Unflinching
4-Unbreakable

The tree is the same with the only few things i've said before

https://pastebin.com/X5BU1ivU

Levelling tree: https://pastebin.com/fbjuBRTC



Video
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Another Uber Elder Carry - Deathless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZyk5ExZcas

Uber Elder Carry - Deathless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QHYNHm7hSk&feature=youtu.be

Last Shaper Phase
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJmPdJY02js&feature=youtu.be

Chimera - Extra light dmg / shocking ground / 60% less recovery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDbKkFAVTl0&feature=youtu.be








Pro's

Budget to start ( red maps on 50c )
Very good league starter
Tanky ( 6k+ HP with tabula/7k HP on good gear, LGOH, regular leech, life regen, blood rage trick pantheon )
Very good lab farmer ( look video section )
No Vaal Pact
Great chance to improve the gear
DOT isnt so dangerous
No gems swap for bosses
Good sustain on long fight when you run out of flasks
Easy Uber Elder ( if you know what to do )


Con's

Melee ( not the best clear speed, but not the worst)
Cant run ele reflect
Cant run no leech, only for mana leech ( if you can get mana gain on hit on jewels you can run no leech too )
Need some investment for end game

Mechanics
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Important Melee damage dont work here(work only melee attack speed), its a projectiles build // Dont look your tooltip in game, that is on melee skill, you cant see the balls dps on tooltip

The base of this build is "LIFE GAIN ON HIT" and molten strike with all his balls is awesome.

On a budget we use ichimonji and thief torment

we can run ez till red maps with this weapons.


In the worst case we spawn like 150 balls per second multiplied per 28 LGOH is 4.200 hp per second without counting the normal leech.

In the best of case we spwan over 450 balls = 12k hp per second.

When you did some currency go for grelwood and LGOH vitality watcher eye





Gear
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50c gear -> lvl 88 5800hp



8c helm
5c each ichimonji
15c thief
3c boots
ssf gloves
ssf ammy
1c belt of the deceiver

Flask


10c wise
2c blood of the karui
ssf other rares


On this gear we are able to run all maps till t13/14, farm uber lab and make currency.

When you can get watcher eye and drop ur thief go for rare rings like this


they are like 5c each

You can grab you life gain on hit on rare elder rings, but i prefere run vitality.


On your rare seach for

Helm: life and res
Rings: add fire or/and phys damage, life, res ( ele damage but will be expencive)
Gloves: add fire or/and phys damage, life, res, attack speed
Boots: life, res, movemente speed
Ammy: life, res, add fire or/and phys damage, ele damage
Rare belt instead of deceiver: life, res, ele damage

We need few dex somewhere( ammy or rings or jew )

Belt options:
For champion Perseverance for perma onlaught
or the nomad for more res, proj damage and dex

Jewels stats:

Life(work very well flat life on abys jew cuz we have a lot of %increased life from tree), add fire damage (one hand, sword, attack), add phys damage (one hand, sword, attack), if need dex, ele pen, global phys damage, projectiles damage

we dont have problem on attack speed, u can get but not so usefull






Ascendancy/Pantheon/Bandits
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Unstoppable hero
Conqueror
Worthy Foe
Fortitude

We must stay stationary for swords buffs so we take fortitude.

For Major God we use Arakaali with queen of the great tangle soul's for more life regen
For Minor God we use Tukohama for more life regen and phys reduction

Kill all bandits for extra points is the right way



Pastebin/Skill tree
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Keystone
Iron Grip
Elemental Overload
Avatar Of Fire - before xoph's blood( ofc )

Pastebin

Champion: https://pastebin.com/eA7RdvBN

Marauder: https://pastebin.com/kbxGkgBx

Gladiator: https://pastebin.com/ELHp7FQB

Skill tree only:





Levelling

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If you wanna start the league with this build look for claws ( gain on hit implicit is broken ), upgreade it at vendor in all city if u dont drop a good rare one. ( im using this lvl 40 act 4
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-Upgreade ur claws always in new town cuz the base damage is higher
-Upgreade always too ur life flask in all town

Run Molten strike and ancestral call on act 1, add faster attack in act 2, i ran 3 link MS till act 4 ( was so smooth ), i get 5link body armour for 1 chaos when hit act 4 ( MS-Fastert Attack-Ancestral Call-Phys To Light-Ele damage) till u reach Avatar of fire on tree around lvl 50 / 55 , then use conc effect instead phys to light.

Get HOP/HOA in act2 till act 3 when u can use vitality( i prefere use vitality for some regen instead of double herald )

i wait to use anger cuz low mana.

Did First lab at level 28 without problem.
Did cruel lab at lvl 54, no prob here too.
Did Kitava act 10 and merc lab at lvl 68.
Easy Uber Lab at lvl 83 - 4700 hp. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CmbL-69x94&feature=youtu.be)

Get Wildfire jewel for more projectiles in act 5.

Run till Blood acqueduct on 5 link and farm tabula for 6link ( change into MS-Multistrike-ele focus-ancestral call-conc effect-ele damage) I wait to use multistrike cuz the attack is repeat 2 time and if u wanna use ur movement skill u must wait the finish of the skill animation, so wait for more attack speed.

At lvl 46 ornament of the east is awesome, I recommend to grab it.


Use point blank on tree before grelwood( only 3 point )

Get grelwood and thief torment before u can and drop PB.

Before Grelwood run double icimonji.


Watcher eyes is the more expencive item, but thief torment/ornamenst of the east/ichiminji will carry u till yellows / first red maps ...

OFC get a rare rings/ammy with life/res and if u can phys/fire damage ...
Rare boot/gloves with life/res...

Gameplay during levelling as league starter

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As you can see the life soustain is awesome

Doedre act 8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaDpFeZDU6A&feature=youtu.be

Solaris / Lunaris act 8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCs1wxhBlL4&feature=youtu.be

Kitava act10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMom73l_Hc4&feature=youtu.be

Uber Lab at lvl 83
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CmbL-69x94&feature=youtu.be

Starting map gear
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1chaos each ornamet
1c belt of the deceiver
tabula farmed on Blood Acqueduct
2c two stone ring
all other are ssf









Levelling tree
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https://pastebin.com/NXm2dpCy

Jugg version: https://pastebin.com/cJwyq9ZK

27-50-76-115 points ( select it in left down window near search bar )




Good item to start If you have currency to invest for levelling

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To help your mana


Then


Thief torment ring will carry you till the first maps

Remember










Gems/Links
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If you dont like ancestral call on bosses swap it for fire penetration


Movement skill - before you grab fortitude link fortify on whirling


Enlighten isnt mandatory but help witha few extra mana



Important: put in this order CWDT - Blood Rage - Immortal Call for pantheon trick

You can add light golem and/or molten shell on ur CWDT setup





no link required





Enchants
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Helm

The beast enchant on this build is molten strike 3 extra projectiles (are 6 projectiles with ancestral call) but is fucking expencive
You can use too:
Ancestral Protector Totem grants 12% increased Attack Speed while Active
Blood Rage grants additional 12% increased Attack Speed
150% increased Effect of the Buff granted by your Lightning Golems
Molten strike 40% damage

Boots

Regenerate 2% of Life and Mana per second if you were Hit Recently
16% attack/cast speed when you kill
120% increased Critical Strike Chance if you haven't Crit Recently



Videos

IF YOU WANT TO RECORD A VIDEO I WILL ADD IT IN THIS SECTION
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[3.5] early league- Budget gear on red maps

8c helm/15c thief/6c each ichimoni/3c boots/1c belt/ other are ssf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYRpj5iYqc0&feature=youtu.be

CHAMPION
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Tank the Shaper slam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8w1G7_SZWM

Uber Elder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lvloUeXxgY&feature=youtu.be

Vaal Temple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jHdet6lmwI&feature=youtu.be

Chayula
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUd3IGPSxUs&feature=youtu.be

Joking with uber lab traps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWLtDzsu8x8&feature=youtu.be

Phoenix ( budget version )- no quality gem / tabula / lvl 89 / most time run out of flask
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97FRLCZVJsI&t=1s

Easy Chimera tank ( budget version 6100hp with tabula )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro2Os4msIUk&feature=youtu.be

Hydra ( budget version 6100hp with tabula )- 26% monsters life / 40% monsters ele res
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hoLfXr7R_Q&feature=youtu.be


JUGGERNAUT
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Another Uber Elder Carry - Deathless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZyk5ExZcas

Uber Elder Carry - Deathless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QHYNHm7hSk&feature=youtu.be


Last Shaper Phase
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJmPdJY02js&feature=youtu.be

Chimera - Extra light dmg / shocking ground / 60% less recovery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDbKkFAVTl0&feature=youtu.be


GLADIATOR
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Full Shaper ( super lazy playstyle )
-As you can see the dmg its ok but not the best
-7.000 hp on gladiator its very cool ( never saw it on glad )
-Chance to hit is 83%, for more dps need accuracy on ring ( versatility keystone help ) 90% will be great
-And ofc 75%/75% block
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6HMDmxRq_o&feature=youtu.be


Facetank Phoenix - extra cold damge - monster life / endurance / extra life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xFw5OMAphg&t=12s



Improve section
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If you can spend some more currency on this char search for:

Xoph's Blood - to save 1 point on tree, give us 10% fire pen, and enenmy covered in ash take more fire damage
Gripped gloves - the best in slot here for more proj damage, with phys/fire damage, res, life, attack speed
or 2 sockets Tombfist - for intimidate and jewels benefit's
Stygian vise belt - with life, res, wed
Opal rings - for more ele damage, with phys/fire damage, life, res, wed
Loreweave - its a very good choise, give us good more damage, crit chance for elemental overload and more max res
Belly Of the beast - give us a big HP boost

Current gear with which I did Uber Elder at lvl 93
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Final Upgrade

[3.3] Champion
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---> https://pastebin.com/JTwVDeTi <---

LVL 96
Almost 7k HP
159k for each ball x 32 balls = 5M dps

If you wanna use First Strike instead Fortitude you will reach almost 6.8M dps




[3.4] Jugg verssion
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FAQ
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-Why conc effect dont work on my tool tip?
Tooltip is referred to melee skill, conc effect works on balls dps so you cant see you realy dps in game

-Can i use leap slam instead of whirling?
You can use it on the same gems set up, i use whirling just cuz i prefere it

-Grelwood is now more expencive, some suggestion?
There are all my suggestions in the guide(into "mechanics" and "levellig" sections) Plz read all guide.

-Why u use anger and vitality/watcher eye instead of anger/HOA and elder rings with LGOH?
I use vitality cuz i prefere have more life regen( arakaali pantheon work very well with this my setup) and u have more life soustain even when u are not attacking(and make ur uber lab run so ez) And find elder rings with LGOH and good stats is more difficult.

-You said this buils is budget, but we need a lot of expencive items( xoph's blood, 6l loreweave etc ... )
Please read well the guide, its divided into section:
first a budget, u can hit over 6000 hp and do shaper, t16, red elder etc...
Second an "improve" section with expencive gear, with which u can farm all high contents like uber atzii and uber elder.

-How do you run haste/anger/vitality ?
We run only anger and vitality ... and using only vaal haste no haste

-Whats the Blood Rage pantheon trick?
caste when damage taken --> blood rage(that give us physical damge over time)
--> immortal call that give us immunity from phys damage.
with arakaali pantheon and his first upgreade(queen of the great tangle) we gain 50% more life regen.

Kill all bandits everywhere



MY OTHER BUILDS
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Red dragon reav flurry istant leech
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2166131



PEACE and thank you
Last edited by Anal_Bleeding on Dec 14, 2018, 4:39:08 PM
Last bumped on Dec 14, 2018, 8:35:59 PM
What weapons should i use while lveveling sir
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tranphuccd wrote:
What weapons should i use while lveveling sir


Hey Mate !

here some good weapons for levelling



Dave
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Completed 9 ChallengesAnal_Bleeding wrote:
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tranphuccd wrote:
What weapons should i use while lveveling sir


Hey Mate !

here some good weapons for levelling



Dave

Thank you, im gonna try this build tonight
So if have no Watcher's Eye then I don't need Vitality gem, right?

Been playing a Juggy MS this season but might give this a go for Flashback!
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Completed 9 ChallengesVeneratio wrote:
So if have no Watcher's Eye then I don't need Vitality gem, right?

Been playing a Juggy MS this season but might give this a go for Flashback!


Hi man!

If u dont have the watcher's eye use Thief's Torment ring for life/mana gain on hit, drop vitality for heral of ash.
Hey bro, what order would you suggest for leveling as far as passive points are concerned? Rush for Avatar of Fire and/or Elemental Overload or what?
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Hey bro, what order would you suggest for leveling as far as passive points are concerned? Rush for Avatar of Fire and/or Elemental Overload or what?


Yes a good choise is rush to avatar of fire , grabbing some life / damage nodes that are on the way... important are the wildfire jewel for more projectiles...

If u cant get ur watcher's jewel for LGOH grab duelist leech, and if cant get worthy foe in a good time u can pick up resolute tecnic then respect it.... i tried without vitality void but with it u will be a very tanky man...

u can use too thief torment ring or LGOH gem support before watcher's eyes...

I hope I have helped you

Dave
I wanted to post an update to this build....have been messing with it for a few days and am currently level 80. I have had no issues with dying to any legitimate hard content...mainly my deaths have came from lightning mirages or not seeing a blood volatile. I typically am able to leech fast enough to recover before I really die.

I was able to complete uber lab at level 72 with 3.8k life and not even resistance capped. I was close to dying a few times to a few slams with two handed mace but recovered super fast. I only had tabula, hrimnors resolve, grelwood shanks and thief's torment. Rest of my gear was mediocre. I play a lot of melee builds such as molten strike and sunder to name a few but usually as a marauder juggernaut. The difference between the two is damage. Champions in my opinion are a great balance between tanky and powerful whereas the juggernaut is more "tanky" then powerful as far as damage output.

As far as leveling was concerned, I got damage when I felt I needed it and life when I felt like I needed it as I went towards avatar of fire. For leveling, I found an Ewar's weapon that produced an extra projectile which in my opinion helped a lot. As soon as you can afford a thief's torment, get it as it made me practically invincible through the acts. This was one of the first builds where I could face tank and leech all the act bosses. Seriously, one of the easiest builds I've played. I am hoping this will help get some notoriety to the build as I find this a pretty bad ass build. Definitely going to use this as my 3.4 league starting character.
Uber Elder Viable !!

I forgot to record the video



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