POE sure seems to be losing a lot of steam

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deadrook wrote:

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Alexdaemon wrote:

of course they will send them awawy if they say we sell books and the customer says i want to buy potatoes... And it has been said before that financialy they are ok more than ok. So no need to worry. So deal its exclusive if you want potatoes go to the right store. :P

Now my friend, you're confusing association with causation.

Good luck :)

fyi, I want the game to be a hit, and see lots of money come to GGG.

Cheers. And FYI there is a price for that money and some don want to pay that much ;). Hope you learn that someday.

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Alexdaemon wrote:

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deadrook wrote:

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Alexdaemon wrote:

of course they will send them awawy if they say we sell books and the customer says i want to buy potatoes... And it has been said before that financialy they are ok more than ok. So no need to worry. So deal its exclusive if you want potatoes go to the right store. :P

Now my friend, you're confusing association with causation.

Good luck :)

fyi, I want the game to be a hit, and see lots of money come to GGG.

Cheers. And FYI there is a price for that money and some don want to pay that much ;). Hope you learn that someday.

That is you're opinion, and honestly it seems jaded. Have you been hurt by other games?

You speak as if money = failed game.

Nope more like whoring or selling out for money= fail. As for jaded frankly nothing i wrote would indicate that but hey you see what you want to see. Good night dude.

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Alexdaemon wrote:

Nope more like whoring or selling out for money= fail. As for jaded frankly nothing i wrote would indicate that but hey you see what you want to see. Good night dude.

Right, I want to see a random guy become depressed and defensive.

You said "there is a price for that money" how else is that supposed to be interpreted?

Clearly I am incorrect. If GGG makes money they will pay a price? or do you mean like a Tax?

I do not know there tax laws where they are based.

Maybe they should join Steam to regain it?

I can't believe no one else went there.


anyway, I want to remind people that what we are playing still isn't a finished game. each patch until the beta tag is removed will somehow bring PoE closer to full game status. Did you notice the new version of lioneyes theme recently? Expect a lot of similar polishing points as we move through open beta.

For a game not even at release level, PoE generated a lot more attention that might have even been warranted.

The population is levelling out nicely imo. Flavour of the month players have either joined the community or moved on. Each day that passes, the community crawls a little closer to what I anticipate will be a fairly core fanbase that understands where GGG is coming from and what they hope to achieve.

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Charan wrote:

Maybe they should join Steam to regain it?

I can't believe no one else went there.


anyway, I want to remind people that what we are playing still isn't a finished game. each patch until the beta tag is removed will somehow bring PoE closer to full game status. Did you notice the new version of lioneyes theme recently? Expect a lot of similar polishing points as we move through open beta.

For a game not even at release level, PoE generated a lot more attention that might have even been warranted.

The population is levelling out nicely imo. Flavour of the month players have either joined the community or moved on. Each day that passes, the community crawls a little closer to what I anticipate will be a fairly core fanbase that understands where GGG is coming from and what they hope to achieve.

Well said.

I don't think PoE losing steam is a bad thing. They are catering to a hardcore playerbase that will keep their game alive for a long time.

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deadrook wrote:

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Alexdaemon wrote:

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cater to a small percentage of the population.

^That right there is what GGG had in mind when they made POE. So the so called steam loss not that big of a deal its mostly people that couldnt handle the game.

Best business model ever. What small business owner does not chant that mantra, 'get out of my store! I only serve "a small percentage of the population" and will never grow or create wealth.'

Joking aside, don't fool yourself, if PoE is (and I think it is) a huge success, and massive, they would not shy away the money/business.

damn hipsters...

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All business owners serve a small percentage of the population, unless you own walmart.

That goes doubly true for anyone with a vision in a creative field. Not everything in life is motivated by money and not everything niche deserves to be degraded by your labels.

This is a game created by people with a love for the genre and I'm sure their vision of what makes a good game is more important to them (rightly so, imho) than chasing every dollar.

There are many reasons why this is happening. And even though its not destined to be the next Diablo 2, or Wow, its a great game that many player who enjoy it will stick too.

Some reason:
-System requirements
(why I'm not playing right now) I can't get past level 50 on HC until I get my new computer. This really thins out the population, as only some PC gamers can stay up with the times.

-Desync
Its small, its almost stupid to complain about it seems, but when you lose a character that you have put weeks of effort into because of it, it sucks. Much less when it happens a second time.

-Learning Curve.
This game was not designed to hold your hand. From the very beginning you are thrown onto a beach spamming potions to stay alive while Hillock bashes your face in. Then you reach the fire Bitch and she murders you because you didn't avoid the rain of death. Then you reach the island and get perma frozen and shattered into a million pieces by the ice bitch. This trend continues until you have learned what does what, and what to avoid. For some people, like me, it is amazing. For a majority of others its a waste of time.
Throw spec choices that don't fail until level 45ish in here, and you got yourself a pretty harsh game for a carebear player.

-Lack of content
As much as we love this game. The fact is, there are only 3 short acts. That you play through over and over and over. And for those who reach endgame, you burn through maps over and over and over. It will burn people out quickly, and they will want something new.

-Groups
While I don't mind the cut-throat looting system(some do), I do hate that content becomes too easy in a group. Watch any streamer or join a group for any boss run. No one dies unless they get 1-2 shot. Mobs simply don't have an attention span, and constantly switch between tons of targets, making any non aoe or 1 shot danger negligible.
This leads to just running along, as fast as the group can aoe down packs. No thinking required, just spam your best attack. It's just incredibly boring imo.

-Pvp
As far as I know this is almost nonexistent. Maybe a few players who like to try and spec for it and blow people up now and then. But the majority of players seem to avoid it.
Cut-throat league may change all that.

-Sense of accomplishment
Unless you are one of the top players on the ladder, or have 1 of the super rare items people want to copy, no one really knows or cares what gear you have. Being a grinding gear based game it would be nice to feel like you can show off some of your loot without linking it in forums.
Perhaps an inspect option, with a single instance city, would fix this. Or being able to click names on the forum and see equipped gear.
Its a small thing, but it really helps in a game like this. And I used to love looking at other peoples gear in other online games.

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Alexdaemon wrote:

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cater to a small percentage of the population.

^That right there is what GGG had in mind when they made POE. So the so called steam loss not that big of a deal its mostly people that couldnt handle the game.

Yah bro they just need to keep on trucking and true fans will blaze their glory or some shit