Multi-Boxing. Finally. The facts.

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Zalm wrote:

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DCDTDito wrote:

PoE as nothing to back it up and at first sight of pvp poeple dont want multi-boxer.

I should do as you alway say and go "trust me having played 90% of MMORPG/ARPG PvP and the like i can assure you that this is what 90% of the player base doesn't want."

Also allowing such pety thing as multi-boxing brought in more skilled hacker program maker and the like in d2 ending in item dupping massive botting that could never be dealt with and even webpage purely dedicated to IRL selling of d2 item.

If that is the consequence you wish for zalm then keep on approving of multi-boxing.

If you mean (trade site from D2 history) or whatever, it happens when the game gets botted to death and people need somewhere to go for good trades of in game items for in game items without buying crap with real money. Did RMT happen on jsp? probably, but it doesnt turn over the fact that the trade system here is much better than D2. The forums act like d2jsp does, so we dont need one.

And if your argument to not allow multiboxing is the 'slippery slope' argument or the 'gateway drug' shot, its piss poor and worthless. If that was the case, then trading on the forums is a gateway to trading for real money, which is a bannable offense, same way it was bannable to bot.

and I dont think PvP multiboxing has been touched on yet, but since I dont PvP anyway, I cant fight for or against that.

I got warned about mentioning certain sites that have had RMT in the past, so I edited myself.

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imtheshane wrote:

There are legitimate reasons whether or not multi-boxing should be allowed. There needs to be a rational discussion about it. What doesn't help is the misconceptions about it, and that's what I want cleared up.

My only concern would be Cut-Throat Leagues. That's a real, legitimate concern that would need to be addressed. Everything else is misconceptions and parroting the same incorrect beliefs.

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DCDTDito wrote:

WoW
D2
D1
Runescape
GW
TL
All allow multiboxing all have bot some of them have fallen some of them have pretty high chance to fall to the same result of wow/runescape/d1/d2

Point proven.

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imtheshane wrote:

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DCDTDito wrote:

WoW
D2
D1
Runescape
GW
TL
All allow multiboxing all have bot some of them have fallen some of them have pretty high chance to fall to the same result of wow/runescape/d1/d2

Point proven.

Correlation does not equal causation.

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DCDTDito wrote:

WoW
D2
D1
Runescape
GW
TL
All allow multiboxing all have bot some of them have fallen some of them have pretty high chance to fall to the same result of wow/runescape/d1/d2

Point proven.

I claimed that multiboxing encourage type of player that wanted easy farm to try it and by logical mean one would after assume that automatic > Human thus multiboxing did provide as starting point to aid int he research of how to acquire currency/gold/worthy item more easly even if in illegal manner by first using allowed but highly disregarded manner such as multi-boxing.

Also the it not the how it work way doesn't work with me,i stand by my point and will preach it high to heaven even if it not how it work,you must prove me wrong not i must prove you right.

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valarias wrote:

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imtheshane wrote:

That's not how it works. You make the claim, you provide proof. You claimed that multiboxing directly contributed to the development of bots and duping. The onus is on you to provide proof.

Unicorns exist and they killed my mother! Prove they didn't. See how ignorant that kind of logic is?

Isn't that what you've been saying this whole time, about how it doesn't affect the economy or ruin the game, but you fail to provide any proof or examples in which any of this is factual, but when the obvious question arises we have to proof an obviously abusive method, is obviously abusive?

congratulations, you've de-leveled from pro-googler to uninformed idiot.

As for the "ban waves" they didn't happen, I just checked the demon buddy forum to confirm, and the first bannings post was july, and they only banned a few accounts, further confirmation would probably be the fact that I was botting at that time for around 24/7 for around 2 weeks by then.

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DCDTDito wrote:

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imtheshane wrote:

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DCDTDito wrote:

WoW
D2
D1
Runescape
GW
TL
All allow multiboxing all have bot some of them have fallen some of them have pretty high chance to fall to the same result of wow/runescape/d1/d2

Point proven.

Correlation does not equal causation.

Coincidence?i beg to differ point proven,time for you to counter with fact that i am wrong.

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Zalm wrote:

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DCDTDito wrote:

WoW
D2
D1
Runescape
GW
TL
All allow multiboxing all have bot some of them have fallen some of them have pretty high chance to fall to the same result of wow/runescape/d1/d2

Point proven.

I claimed that multiboxing encourage type of player that wanted easy farm to try it and by logical mean one would after assume that automatic > Human thus multiboxing did provide as starting point to aid int he research of how to acquire currency/gold/worthy item more easly even if in illegal manner by first using allowed but highly disregarded manner such as multi-boxing.

Also the it not the how it work way doesn't work with me,i stand by my point and will preach it high to heaven even if it not how it work,you must prove me wrong not i must prove you right.

you didnt prove us right or wrong, your trying to prove yourself right.

And just because all those games had bots and multiboxers doesnt mean the botters started out multiboxers. Its a hazy proof at best. I dont buy it.

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valarias wrote:

As for the "ban waves" they didn't happen, I just checked the demon buddy forum to confirm, and the first bannings post was july, and they only banned a few accounts, further confirmation would probably be the fact that I was botting at that time for around 24/7 for around 2 weeks by then.