GGG hates standard.

I think they should delete standard. :D

Just kidding^^

But everytime I log into a standard char to check something and see my bazillion (remove-only) stash tabs, it's like a nightmare. That pure horror, I really wish they would do something about this.

But I don't think GGG hate standard, it's overall just the minority of players I guess who really "only" play standard. The majority of the players playing league. That's what we always waiting for, new mechanics, new uniques etc. And for most of us, a fresh start. Standard is some kind of a test-area for the most players.

I'm not really into playing the same char and build over and over and over again, this is getting really boring. Thats also what PoE is all about, diversity.

GGG just prioritize over the majority of their playerbase mostly. And this is good, otherwise they would lose a lot of players/respectively money.
You guys don't get it. Standard is a land-fill/graveyard for the past temp leagues. That's standard's function/role/purpose in PoE. Not trying to shit on you guys. That's what standard has always been. Why should GGG try to build nice things in a literal land-fill/graveyard? It makes no sense.

You guys want permanent access to your broken/OP items, but you also want GGG to care about a league that by its nature can never be balanced (b/c of broken/OP items). You can't have it both ways. Don't you see that your complaint makes no sense? Again, I'm really not trying to shit on standard players. I just compared you guys to kids/adults playing in a real life land-fill b/c I thought it would help you better understand the situation and how ridiculous it is to play standard. I'm not trying to be mean.
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coatofarms wrote:
You guys don't get it. Standard is a land-fill/graveyard for the past temp leagues. That's standard's function/role/purpose in PoE. Not trying to shit on you guys. That's what standard has always been. Why should GGG try to build nice things in a literal land-fill/graveyard? It makes no sense.

You guys want permanent access to your broken/OP items, but you also want GGG to care about a league that by its nature can never be balanced (b/c of broken/OP items). You can't have it both ways. Don't you see that your complaint makes no sense? Again, I'm really not trying to shit on standard players. I just compared you guys to kids/adults playing in a real life land-fill b/c I thought it would help you better understand the situation and how ridiculous it is to play standard. I'm not trying to be mean.
Yeah and like I said, throwing away all your progress every few months is also ridiculous. You go and convince people to work for 3 months, and then give all the money away at the end, good luck. The only thing leagues have over standard is a better economy. But you know what, I don't play poe as a damn economy simulator.
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Telzen wrote:
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coatofarms wrote:
You guys don't get it. Standard is a land-fill/graveyard for the past temp leagues. That's standard's function/role/purpose in PoE. Not trying to shit on you guys. That's what standard has always been. Why should GGG try to build nice things in a literal land-fill/graveyard? It makes no sense.

You guys want permanent access to your broken/OP items, but you also want GGG to care about a league that by its nature can never be balanced (b/c of broken/OP items). You can't have it both ways. Don't you see that your complaint makes no sense? Again, I'm really not trying to shit on standard players. I just compared you guys to kids/adults playing in a real life land-fill b/c I thought it would help you better understand the situation and how ridiculous it is to play standard. I'm not trying to be mean.
Yeah and like I said, throwing away all your progress every few months is also ridiculous. You go and convince people to work for 3 months, and then give all the money away at the end, good luck. The only thing leagues have over standard is a better economy. But you know what, I don't play poe as a damn economy simulator.


yeah but we get cool little numbers by our names

makes us feel special
I dont see any any key!
I think I'll never understand the reasoning behind why Standard players are usually bashed in the community (not talking about this thread specifically though). Why can't everyone enjoy the game in their own way? I tried leagues a lot of times since they have been implemented back in the days, but it is simply not for me. Some day I would like to reach level 100, not sure if I will ever be able to do so, but because of my job and my family I am hardly able to reach red maps in leagues ;-)

On the other hand I have to agree that it actually seems to be, that Standard becomes less and less important for GGG (as discussed in previous other threads the implementation of Fall of Oriath for existing players (they have to do all side quests with all existing characters again) does not seem to be optimal). If the league players are putting much more money in the game than the Standard players, this is absolutely understandable from a business point of view, so nothing condemnable about this. A long time ago I remember a statement from GGG, that Standard players are an important part of the game, since they aren't subject to the same fluctuations as league players, but are playing all the time. But this was before the game became this immensely popular, so the situation might have changed.

Anyway, I would be sad if Standard is not playable at a certain point in time, but until now it is still quite enjoyable. Did a lot of trading today, so it seems there are still players in Standard left ;-)
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GankstarVX84 wrote:
every new shitty fucking pointless expansion adds an afterthought of gameplay to standard and every shitty fucking pointless league has all theese fucking bells and whistles on, I for one find the prospect of starting fresh fucking retarded, so whats the fucking point in even adding all of this trivial bullshit to standard? do u think we give a fuck about the new acts?

a new league starts, new content comes, I quit.. always the same, cu the content is always for some [Removed by Support]



Seems you dont care about anything anything in this game. So why even play? Go do something else if its so shitty.

Whiny turd.
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I hate standard, don't get me wrong ive had my fun in standard long ago, and its good for learning the ropes, but standard is the dumping ground of the game, riddled with RMT and leftovers from long ago forgotten leagues and HC deaths.

I don't think this game does permanent very well, in that nothing is permanent even in SC due to constant balance changes. It shouldn't be the focus of the game, and you cant really do events like with leagues as people play standard for the ability not to deal with events...what could you do with standard to make it better while keeping it consistently the same which is the point of it?
just for try, for see and for know
There was a time when std was the real game while the leagues' only purpose was to test stuff before introducing it in the main. The change of route occurred due to the inability (or lack of will) by GGG to keep the game balanced, for sure I know that the most broken legacies (except maybe kaom's) could be avoided. Eternal duping in Rampage (iirc) didn't help niether, how do you keep a game balanced if players can use a full gear of 6xt1? You can't, also the leagues attract many casuals which weren't the initial target, but they pay like everyone else. More players = more money for GGG, quite simple.
The only reason Standard exists is because of the asinine riot that would ensue if it didn't. Well that and a holdover from D2, but otherwise, yes, it is and will forever be a graveyard. If you don't know this after several leagues, you've missed the boat.

And no, this is not some new development. It's literally been this way since leagues were introduced. It's just more obvious now.
Ancient and unwise, SSF only since 2012
I see people who playing leagues as a nuts. In my eyes only nuts can start over and over every couple months, without real progression. Never really achieve end game content. No long term goals etc,etc. This kind of behavior doesn't work in real life. You need time to achieve BIG and challenging goals.

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