Donald Trump and US politics

Morbo wrote:

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And if that image is just "vulgar" to you, then you've maybe watched one too many ISIS beheadings.

De-sensitized to violence yet against guns. Not sure this can end well.

It's highly vulgar because it's not a real human head of course. Nothing like the ISIS decapitation that I find revolting.

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kolyaboo wrote:

I think his point is that it is none of a foreigner's business about our gun laws. If you like strict ones, then go with God. We like ours.

Guns are illegaly exported to Canada (where I reside), so your very lax gun system actually affect my country. Although we don't threaten to build a wall and making you pay for it :P

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faerwin wrote:

You have hundreds of mass shooting for 1 mass shooting of countries with regulated/banned firearms.

USA (112.6 guns per 100) is at 11th place on the firearm related deaths list. It is preceeded by very strict gun laws (usually socialist) countries like Venezuela (10.7 guns per 100) & Honduras (6.2 guns per 100). Source

USA has the highest gun ownership and liberalization but much less firearms related deaths than very strict gun control countries.

"mass shootings" are not everything.

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11th place is total, if you look only at homicide its even lower

I did a pool for this 85 year old man once and he said he used to drive to High School with two guns in gun rack so him and his friends could go hunting after school. Was totally legal and no mass shootings. People are just more mental today. Nevertheless guns are just a tool as EU is finding out you can murder ppl without guns quite regularly.

Anyway "gun control" ship has sailed there is over 300 million guns in USA that we know about. Probably closer to 600 million off the books since records were not kept until about 50 years ago. Good luck rounding those up. Then every DIY worth his salt has a machine shop/metal lathe in his barn/garage and could make them if he wanted. Not exactly complicated tech we are talking about here.

Sarah Austin wrote:

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kolyaboo wrote:
I think his point is that it is none of a foreigner's business about our gun laws. If you like strict ones, then go with God. We like ours.


So its ok for americans to complain about europes immigrants but its not ok if europeans complain about US gun laws?

No, it is NOT OK. None of the Americans' damned business. Another case of go with God if you want free and open immigration. I don't care.

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morbo wrote:

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faerwin wrote:

You have hundreds of mass shooting for 1 mass shooting of countries with regulated/banned firearms.

USA (112.6 guns per 100) is at 11th place on the firearm related deaths list. It is preceeded by very strict gun laws (usually socialist) countries like Venezuela (10.7 guns per 100) & Honduras (6.2 guns per 100). Source

USA has the highest gun ownership and liberalization but much less firearms related deaths than very strict gun control countries.

"mass shootings" are not everything.

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11th place is total, if you look only at homicide its even lower

Do you really like to compare yourself with 3rd and 2nd world countries (some of which have civil wars going on)? And yet, you come up as having more firearms deaths?

Beside, that wikipedia article is highly incomplete and I'm not even sure that data can be used.