Donald Trump and US politics

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faerwin wrote:
You have hundreds of mass shooting for 1 mass shooting of countries with regulated/banned firearms.

Terrorism isn't happening "all the time" either.


That's so untrue it's fucking hilarious. It's like you honestly believe that guns do not find their way into the hands of criminals just because the guns are regulated/banned. In those countries you have way more stabbings than we have shootings and infinitely more bombings than we have.

Terrorism isn't happening all the time? Then please explain these statistics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_2017
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faerwin wrote:
Beside, that wikipedia article is highly incomplete and I'm not even sure that data can be used.

Doesnt matter. You have countries like Switzerland who have a ton of weapons and no mass shootings. It's not about gun control but about culture. If you could theoretically remove all weapons in the US, insane people would use cars and trucks, like islamic extremists do now in EU. You can kill a lot of people with knives too, just look at the stabings spree in Israel from last year.
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Wraeclastian wrote:
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faerwin wrote:
You have hundreds of mass shooting for 1 mass shooting of countries with regulated/banned firearms.

Terrorism isn't happening "all the time" either.


That's so untrue it's fucking hilarious. It's like you honestly believe that guns do not find their way into the hands of criminals just because the guns are regulated/banned. In those countries you have way more stabbings than we have shootings and infinitely more bombings than we have.

Terrorism isn't happening all the time? Then please explain these statistics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_2017



Terrorism events are extremely rare compared to the amount of indivuals on the planet, compared to mass shooting. Heck, some of those mass shooting are considered act of terrorism and go in both category.

I bet the US has more mass shooting than there's act of terrorism world wide.
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faerwin wrote:
Beside, that wikipedia article is highly incomplete and I'm not even sure that data can be used.

Doesnt matter. You have countries like Switzerland who have a ton of weapons and no mass shootings. It's not about gun control but about culture. If you could theoretically remove all weapons in the US, insane people would use cars and trucks, like islamic extremists do now in EU. You can kill a lot of people with knives too, just look at the stabings spree in Israel from last year.



It does have gun control.

"In order to purchase most weapons, the purchaser must obtain a weapon acquisition permit (Art. 8 WG). Swiss citizens and foreigners with a C permit over the age of 18 who are not psychiatrically disqualified nor identified as posing security problems, and who have a clean criminal record can request such a permit. Foreigners with the following citizenship are explicitly excluded from the right to possess weapons: Serbia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo, Macedonia, Turkey, Sri Lanka, Algeria and Albania.[note 2] The following information must be provided to the cantonal weapon bureau together with the weapon application form:"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Switzerland

There's also a registery and other stuff.


Many states in the US do not care about any of those regulations.
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faerwin wrote:
Terrorism events are extremely rare compared to the amount of indivuals on the planet, compared to mass shooting. Heck, some of those mass shooting are considered act of terrorism and go in both category.

I bet the US has more mass shooting than there's act of terrorism world wide.


Look at the link I provided and you will find that terrorist attacks are far from rare. In many parts of the world, it is a common occurrence.

As for the the USA, what do you consider to be a mass shooting? Where are the stats to back up your claims?

At least I provided FACTS to back up my claims. Something you liberal snowflakes haven't learned to do yet. I only accept facts and statistics, not feelings and opinions.
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faerwin wrote:
Many states in the US do not care about any of those regulations.

Everyone has a certain amount of gun regulation. You want to claim that "gun control" solves issues, but countries with a lot more strict gun laws have a ton more gun related deaths than US. And countries with a ton of guns in circulation (eg. Serbia, many of which are illegal) don't have mass shootings on the scale seen in US.

Clearly, "gun control" is just a deflection away from the real issue. In this particular case: politically motivated terrorism from a left-wing extremist.
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morbo wrote:
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faerwin wrote:
Many states in the US do not care about any of those regulations.

Everyone has a certain amount of gun regulation. You want to claim that "gun control" solves issues, but countries with a lot more strict gun laws have a ton more gun related deaths than US. And countries with a ton of guns in circulation (eg. Serbia, many of which are illegal) don't have mass shootings on the scale seen in US.

Clearly, "gun control" is just a deflection away from the real issue. In this particular case: politically motivated terrorism from a left-wing extremist.



I don't think you can stop anyone from having extreme views, sadly. It's something that happen in the head of a person. At best, you can monitor them (which is something that is often done, if caught). You can, however, do something about guns.

You are correct that the real issue here is a "politically motivated terrorism from a left-wing extremist" but sadly, I don't see any possible way to fix said issue. Bernie is by far the most anti-gun person to present himself at the election and this still happened...


Some states regulations are "are you 18+ (or 21+ in some states)?" and that's about it. Might as well say there's none
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/06/14/the-gop-baseball-shooting-is-the-154th-mass-shooting-this-year/?utm_term=.ebe537ac4b00

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting
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faerwin wrote:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/06/14/the-gop-baseball-shooting-is-the-154th-mass-shooting-this-year/?utm_term=.ebe537ac4b00

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting


>shoot 50+ rounds with an AR15 into a bunch of people
>nobody dies

Leftist terrorism is a mess, folks.
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Luckily the guy knew nothing about firearms and doesn't know those have shitty range or he would have actually killed lots of people and injured more.

Wait a minute for a second faerwin: I thought Canada had tons of guns? That is what Michael Moore said in Bowling for Columbine, anyway. Is that not true?

Not being facetious, really just curious. Have not been there since I was a little kid.
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