Hillary Clinton

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Jennik wrote:

Appleguy was giving a tremendous amount of undue weight to this email for some reason.

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There are many other ways to look at this issue to see that what Appleguy did was ridiculous, but hopefully this was clear enough to make my point obvious.

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Jennik wrote:

Listen, Trumpty, this might be hard for you to wrap your noggin around, but things aren't true simply because someone emailed them to John Podesta. Please try to understand that. Linking to an email on Wikileaks is not a substitute for a rational argument. Pointing out that one human being holds a belief does not mean that belief is factual, nor does it mean that belief is common.

Without doing research, answer these questions (and I'm not looking for a reply to any of these, this is for your personal benefit):

1) Who is Bill Ivey?

2) Why is his opinion so important that you feel the need to present it as if it's a rock-solid argument?

3) How have you not realized how ridiculous what you're doing is before now?

4) What else do you think about in such clearly outlandish, blind, and outright childishly simplistic ways?

1) No idea :)

2) I really love how you know how solid an argument I consider it, what my conclusion was, what exact reasoning I used to arrive at said conclusion all from one short sentence.

All I did was present information. The conclusions? The faulty logic? All you. :)

3, 4) Grow up.

Of course it isn't strong evidence. It does not disprove all other possibilities than Hillary conspiring to keep voters unaware and compliant.

But it is something more likely to be found in the email of someone who is fine with such strategy.

Also, I made you post 3 massive rage-filled rants about it. I'll be counting this one as a win x)

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DalaiLama wrote:

It isn't an accident that Trump's book is named thusly:



Trump is a compromiser. He understands he won't get everything he wants, but he does understand that a leader who makes no progress because they aren't willing to be flexible isn't going to be successful.

That, and he understands the principle of starting a negotiation high and lowering demands over time.

Everyone made a big deal about Trump's comments on nukes. But look at it from a deal-making mindset. What is gained by promising not to ever use them? Sure, you can come across as sober and rational... but does that "nice guy" style enhance international negotiation power? I don't think Trump mentally envisioned, for even one second, his hand hovering over a scary red button; I think he was too focused on his vision of being at a negotiating table, pressuring foreign leaders into deals more beneficial to the United States. I think when Teddy Roosevelt said "speak softly and carry a big stick," Trump listened, and he just didn't want to put the stick down. Maybe he still should have - the nuke stick is a very awkward weapon, and not very useful - but I definitely think he is right on the core concept of focusing on a strong foreign policy.

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Jennik wrote:

understand that people having free speech doesn't mean they can freely speak anywhere. That has never been a thing. I'm all for some sort of standards on the Internet, though the Internet would have to change massively for that to happen. I fear we've already lost a significant portion of our youth to garbage like Breitbart and Infowars.

So what then, you think these websites should be shut down? Banned from YouTube? You think that's a pro-freedom position?

Also, saw this ad on YouTube today.

Election fraud in PA: https://twitter.com/lordaedonis/status/796016074231672836

Interesting how it never seems to be the other way round. Same thing in the democratic primaries where you couldn't press the Bernie button on several occasions.

EDIT: Seems this guy is a busta and not pressing the button correctly on purpose. Point for not rigged :)

Meet anarcho-/pol/.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

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Jennik wrote:

understand that people having free speech doesn't mean they can freely speak anywhere. That has never been a thing. I'm all for some sort of standards on the Internet, though the Internet would have to change massively for that to happen. I fear we've already lost a significant portion of our youth to garbage like Breitbart and Infowars.

So what then, you think these websites should be shut down? Banned from YouTube? You think that's a pro-freedom position?

Also, saw this ad on YouTube today.

You don't need to ban speech in order to highlight certain information as being more valuable or less valuable. Again, though, I don't think it's possible with the Internet in its current state. I think we'd need Internet 2.0 for any real change to happen.

As to your video, I stopped watching after a bit because it's Prager University and just thinking about that idiot farm turns my stomach, but I think I got the gist. People have the right to free speech. They are not free from the consequences of free speech. This is fair and reasonable.

The governor of my state is perfectly free to openly admit his views on non-heterosexuals and non-Christians, just as I was perfectly free to vote against that piece of shit to help get him out of office. That is free speech working as intended.

Like Sam Harris says, you pay a price when you say really dumb shit. It would be unreasonable if you didn't.

She's a freaking criminal... it's amazing how much people are freaking brainwashed.

If it was anyone else I can guarantee you his/her ass would be in jail. Goes to show how corrupt politicians are.

You would have been great, Hillary. I'm sorry America spent most of your life betraying you. I'm sorry people believe in some monstrous caricature of you instead of seeing you for who you are. I'm sorry we let you down.

Today is a dark day for America.

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Jennik wrote:

You would have been great, Hillary. I'm sorry America spent most of your life betraying you. I'm sorry people believe in some monstrous caricature of you instead of seeing you for who you are. I'm sorry we let you down.

Today is a dark day for America.

Someone is sal-tee.

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Jennik wrote:

You would have been great, Hillary. I'm sorry America spent most of your life betraying you. I'm sorry people believe in some monstrous caricature of you instead of seeing you for who you are. I'm sorry we let you down.

Today is a dark day for America.

That's really low energy. She still has a chance.