[3.3 Video Guide] Beginner's Build: Lich Queen Skeleton Summoner [Everything Viable]

Hello, and thanks for this guide ! it's awesome, i'm running the mage version, atm lvl 76, and it's alright (only got to low tier maps atm).

I'm wondering, is queen's escape a good item to equip compared to brightbeak + victario's charity ? Since I have necromantic aegis (i could respec out of it if i use a 2h) and already 10 skels, with the queen's i would get 11 skels which downgrades the build (1 melee skel after the 10 skels, unless i respec out of any +1 skel node).

What would you suggest ??

Thanks for your advice :-)
Someone can link budget gear?
Hey Ghazzy and other fellow necros :)

Great build, really enjoying it!

Been trying to follow the guide as much as possible, but Could you take a look at my profile for a comment (specifically gems/passives)? https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Donvigoo/characters

Atm, im sitting on a 5L chest, And I dont really know which 5 or 6 gems (when i get it) Is the "best" for melee skeletons? (Right now im swtiching out splash for multistrike on bosses.

I noticed you used the Ruthless support gem on your newest comment on the build, so I tried it out (used added fire damage before).. And i cant really fit in minion speed yet.

I've spent alot of refund points and trying to get it sorted, But Is there any main issues with my passives?

Would appreciate some help!
/Donvigo
I'm confused as to what my last 2 Ascendancy Nodes should be because both Pastebin builds use mistress of sacrifice. The forum post itsself says under melee skellys to use commander of darkness and mistress of sacrifice but nothing about mage. the skill tree under leveling section that says finished skill tree only has commander of darkness and mistress of sacrifice selected nothing else. So fore the mage build what should my last 2 points be?

am i the only one?

Tom
Last edited by maxxxam on Mar 15, 2018 10:50:44 AM
Hey Ghazzy thanks for all of the hard work. Do you have any recommendations for some leveling gloves??
Hello, first of all thanks for the guide, great build.

And please excuse me for my "noob" questions and my bad grammar, its not my first language.

Here we go! I use melee skels with Solar Guard spectres.

I skipped to use Animated Guardian, how important is that? Seems really annoying to me loss the items if guardian got killed. (But i plan to try it)

Besides the lv 4 empower on 6l, any improve on my gear, like The Scourge, or exchange a few life nodes to add couple more nice jewels that boost minion damage when used minion skills and life?.

I miss fast attacks gem linked to shield charge, dunno if there is something i don't undestand, but on tier 8-10 maps im very glass cannon and have to stay far from mobs to no be almost instakilled. Seems a bit risky charge to them to gain fortify charges, can't see how fast attacks on shield charge can be useful.

Planning on future to add a socket ring to move there flesh offering and add vaal haste, but meanwhile, what is more important vaal haste or vaal lightning trap?.

All Resistance @75%, 6100 HP, 1100 Energy Armour. Managed to kill Atziri at first try, but missing Uber lab ascendancy, died on Izaro with 2-3% HP left, but i will be back soon!

Thank you!.



Last edited by metalknight83 on Mar 15, 2018 12:51:16 PM
Same as few people above have difficulties to staying alive. I barelly pass labyrinth 68 at 78 lvl character. And only because of luck, avoided all hits from Izaro somehow, because if he didnt miss, i die from 1-2 shots without time to use some flasks. This is my 1st high level character and only about 1 week in game. Follow this guide pretty straight forward, almost ) Cant fit iron will to the build yet. 6 links too expensive for me atm.

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Danzanus/characters

Can somebody check and give some advices about build, or how to stay alive at least a little longer. what i can do with?

Thank you anycase :)
Last edited by Danzanus on Mar 15, 2018 8:18:43 AM
Please add Animate Guardian setups for Solar Guards and TVs.

Thanks for the great build guide! Rerolled the melee version and loving it so far.
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Completed 23 ChallengesKalenji87 wrote:
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Completed 18 ChallengesGhazzy wrote:


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Completed 23 ChallengesKalenji87 wrote:
is it worth use summon skeleton level 21?


Minions are similar to spell skills where the lvl of the gem scales the baseline dmg of the ability making lvl 21 gems the most desired lvl unlike attack builds which don't benefit as much from it.



so, in the end, using lvl 21 summon skel with 20%Q should be the best option for dmg.

what do you think about not going str stacking with baron, instead going for +3 minion skill helmet and other general purpose jewel/abyssal jewel with minion life/dmg: is the dmq comparable?


Correct.

For higher budget versions I'd skip the strength stacking and use an Elder helmet for the spectres due to the lack of mods that would benefit skellies and then run a 6L skelly setup, like I'm doing on stream with this build atm :)


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BaamRakuu wrote:
What would be the best unique chest armour for the build?
I know that the rare chests with lots of life are quite beneficial, yet i'd
like to see what other options there are.
I've thought about the Ashrend unique chest but coloring that one would be painful.
Then there is the usual vis mortis for an extra spectre or maybe the one with the
blood offering. By the way, im using melee skellies with solar guards.

And what do you think about using montregul's with the zombie ascendancy so i could have
5 big zombies that do some nice dmg in a 4 link or maybe in the 5 link ring. Surely, my
shield charge would be slower without brightbeak so i'm not sure.


Hey,

Depends on your approach, a rare chest with life & strength for low budget. For medium/high budget you can run Vis Mortis to scale your spectres further, same with equipping an Elder helmet for the specs :)

I'd rather drop zombies for higher budget tbh and focus more on Animate Guardian & utility.


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BaamRakuu wrote:
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I looked through the pages on the guide, but I can;t figure out how to keep skelly number at 9. Following the tree + Bone sculptor leaves me at 10. What am I missing? Thanks in advance.



Just take out the Puppet Master node in the tree if you want to have 9 skellies.
It's not like the extra zombie and 16% minion life matter all that much.


The sweet spot at 9 was recently fixed but sadly GGG have a habit of not showing in the patch notes when they fix fundamental issues regarding summoners, this is just another one of those things. We can not fully utilize 10 mages in the build.


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Completed 8 ChallengesPadreweak wrote:
Hi Ghazzy,

Thx for great content man !

I want to do the MELEE version of your build.

I have some questions (even tho i did go through all 44 pages of this thread, i think i didnt found the answers i was looking for) :

- After you died, do you still recommend using BARON as helmet ? (untill we can replace by "abyss" crazy helmet) If not is your tree on pastebin still OK ? because you do stack a lot of Strenght (well im ok with it as im playing HC like you are, but wondering if its still the best choice if not going BARON)

- Do you still recommend using NA with Victario charity ? (i think i heard somewhere you would not go NA again, maybe i misunderstood)

- I understand why we get 9 skellies for the MAGE version, but why 9 on the MELEE version ? beceause its enough ? (im looking at the notable node Puppet Master next to Herd of the flock)

- About the links on MELEE version of Summon Skeleton i see you path of building differents links from what you are saying in this guide (and i think i read somewhere in this thread that you recommend using Melee Splash but i dont see it anywhere in the guide nor in Path of Building ?)


Sorry for this much questions and for the bad english. Ty vm for your time helping people.
Padreweak


Hey,

WoW... that's called dedication!
Baron is mainly designed for low budget approach as this is a beginner's guide. However, if you wish to invest more currency to it I'd strongly recommend not strength stacking and instead getting an Elder helmet for your spectres, this is what I'm running on stream with this build atm. The tree would still be the same.

Regarding NA:
I chose not to run with it cause I'm in hardcore and will bring the build to Uber Elder :) I wanted more eHP.

I'm using 10 melee skellies. Also, the mages were because of a bug that has been fixed with GGG not informing us of it.

Melee Splash is for AoE, the other links are for single target :)

Don't worry about the language, I understood :) It's my pleasure, I do my best to answer to everyone!


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Completed 2 ChallengesExitl0l wrote:
Heyah!

I'm kinda stuck after defeating Kitava.
I've started running maps, buti've lacked survivability and damage as well.

All my stuff can be found on my charater (RaginSkelly).

I'm looking for some gearing hints/tips, i'M on a pretty low budget atm, which is 20c.
What should i upgrade, and what should i look for when searching for replacements.

Thanks.

ps: I'm running SG specs.



Drop the 3x Duration nodes, you no longer need them, get some more HP instead!
Are you res capped?
How much life do you have? (after the 3 duration node respec)

What seems to be the issue? Spell dmg? Bosses?


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Completed 16 ChallengesPhyst wrote:
Im wondering if build the scourge ... When in the description says "70% increased Minion Damage if you have Hit Recently" i can use Orb of the Storm? or you dont recommend it?

And what map do you think are best for Shapping?

regards


Orb of Storms works to proc Scourge :)

Shaping these days depends on which map you prefer to run yourself. GGG has really made mapping good in that way at least.


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Completed 10 ChallengesFanboy0 wrote:
I want to do the build but I have difficulty knowing which items to use ... could you tell me some items to use in this build?


Hey,

Well, the guide shows the low budget approach anything from Aurumvorax to Brightbeak or Scourge. Rare chest pieces etc etc, if you wish to invest more currency you get other options:

Vis Mortis for extra spectre
Elder Helmet for psuedo 5-7L spectres
Queen's Decree/Escape

It all depends on how you wish to play the build :)
Also, for higher budget I strongly recommend not strength stacking, get abyssal jewels, vis mortis and own the world :)



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Completed 8 ChallengesGhosto0 wrote:
Hey Ghazzy,

thank you very much for the invested Work in the Guides. I love the Guides and Builds from you. That's the third Char I'm running with your build.

I'm now in Act9 and running with 10 Mage Skellies, 3 Tukohoma and an Animated Guardian equiped with Rare Items (with 21k Life).
The build feels really fine. Actually I'm a bit glassy because I missed the resistances ;-) so I must keep running around shiel bashing.
Next Login Kitava is my target, then I will cap resitances for better sustain.

But I have a question about the last Ascendandy. I don't know what to take: Mistress of Sacrifice or Commander of Darkness?

Which one is better? Last Build with SRS I've used Sacrifice, that's great for summoning the SRS. But with the Skelly-Build I don't really need to cast them quicker.

With Commander I will have a 30% dmg-boost for minions and 20% resistances.
Whats about Mistress? Is the 40% boost after an offering also counting for Minions? Than I would go for these one.

Please help me out here.

Thank you



Hey,

Awesome to hear! Thank you as well <3

I prefer Commander of Darkness in general after the MoS nerf, it gives good offence as well as the very needed resistances.


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Completed 17 Challengesashkman wrote:
Thanks for the awesome guide, I'm running the melee skellies build with Baron but I haven't taken Necromantic Aegis yet. What shield would you suggest to use with it? Is it even worth it at this point?


Victario's Charity, but its not mandatory, you'll be a bit faster but not speccing NA makes you tankier instead with a rare shield.


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Completed 9 ChallengesThanouz wrote:
Hello, and thanks for this guide ! it's awesome, i'm running the mage version, atm lvl 76, and it's alright (only got to low tier maps atm).

I'm wondering, is queen's escape a good item to equip compared to brightbeak + victario's charity ? Since I have necromantic aegis (i could respec out of it if i use a 2h) and already 10 skels, with the queen's i would get 11 skels which downgrades the build (1 melee skel after the 10 skels, unless i respec out of any +1 skel node).

What would you suggest ??

Thanks for your advice :-)


Hey,

My pleasure! Glad you like it! :D

I would not recommend using Queen's for this build anymore, 1H/Shield is just so much faster & stronger these days.


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cororo11 wrote:
Someone can link budget gear?


It should all be in the guide? The guide is designed to target low budget.


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Completed 2 ChallengesDonvigoo wrote:
Hey Ghazzy and other fellow necros :)

Great build, really enjoying it!

Been trying to follow the guide as much as possible, but Could you take a look at my profile for a comment (specifically gems/passives)? https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Donvigoo/characters

Atm, im sitting on a 5L chest, And I dont really know which 5 or 6 gems (when i get it) Is the "best" for melee skeletons? (Right now im swtiching out splash for multistrike on bosses.

I noticed you used the Ruthless support gem on your newest comment on the build, so I tried it out (used added fire damage before).. And i cant really fit in minion speed yet.

I've spent alot of refund points and trying to get it sorted, But Is there any main issues with my passives?

Would appreciate some help!
/Donvigo


Hey,

Cheers!

The gems are listed in order of efficiency in the guide :) (Change Multistrike for Melee Splash if you're not running bosss).
The tree is routing a bit ineffectively on the bottom left side compared to what the guide shows, same with the nodes north of that. Other than that the tree looks good.

I will take another look at the gems in the guide to make sure they are optimal.


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Completed 13 Challengesmaxxxam wrote:
I'm confused as to what my last 2 Ascendancy Nodes should be because both Pastebin builds use mistress of sacrifice. The forum post itsself says under melee skellys to use commander of darkness and mistress of sacrifice but nothing about mage. the skill tree under leveling section that says finished skill tree only has commander of darkness and mistress of sacrifice selected nothing else. So fore the mage build what should my last 2 points be?

am i the only one?

Tom


It's generally a matter of taste, here's my preference:

Invoker => Soul Weaver => Bone Sculptor => Commander of Darkness.


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iAM_ wrote:
Hey Ghazzy thanks for all of the hard work. Do you have any recommendations for some leveling gloves??


Thank you! :)

Nah, I'd rather use rare gloves tbh.


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Hello, first of all thanks for the guide, great build.

And please excuse me for my "noob" questions and my bad grammar, its not my first language.

Here we go! I use melee skels with Solar Guard spectres.

I skipped to use Animated Guardian, how important is that? Seems really annoying to me loss the items if guardian got killed. (But i plan to try it)

Besides the lv 4 empower on 6l, any improve on my gear, like The Scourge, or exchange a few life nodes to add couple more nice jewels that boost minion damage when used minion skills and life?.

I miss fast attacks gem linked to shield charge, dunno if there is something i don't undestand, but on tier 8-10 maps im very glass cannon and have to stay far from mobs to no be almost instakilled. Seems a bit risky charge to them to gain fortify charges, can't see how fast attacks on shield charge can be useful.

Planning on future to add a socket ring to move there flesh offering and add vaal haste, but meanwhile, what is more important vaal haste or vaal lightning trap?.

All Resistance @75%, 6100 HP, 1100 Energy Armour. Managed to kill Atziri at first try, but missing Uber lab ascendancy, died on Izaro with 2-3% HP left, but i will be back soon!

Thank you!.





Hey,

No worries bro! :)

AG is very good, but don't use him till he's lvl 18+.
Abyssal Jewels with flat life + %min dmg when you've used a min skill recently is the best. The shield charge with Fortify is only IF you accidentally charge in to something to give you another layer of defence, you can use this 3L in a 4L instead and add Animate Guardian to it to give him Fortify!

Vaal Haste is most important. Vaal Lightning Trap is optional.



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Danzanus wrote:
Same as few people above have difficulties to staying alive. I barelly pass labyrinth 68 at 78 lvl character. And only because of luck, avoided all hits from Izaro somehow, because if he didnt miss, i die from 1-2 shots without time to use some flasks. This is my 1st high level character and only about 1 week in game. Follow this guide pretty straight forward, almost ) Cant fit iron will to the build yet. 6 links too expensive for me atm.

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Danzanus/characters

Can somebody check and give some advices about build, or how to stay alive at least a little longer. what i can do with?

Thank you anycase :)


Hey,

The belt is not good, you can use a rare Stygian Vise (Abyssal Belt) with life & resistances, your rings don't have life. This is most likely the main reasons why you're dying. You can spec out of NA and switch the shield for a normal shield for more defence. Im running a higher budget version of this build on stream with 8000 life atm.

Regarding your skilltree:
Remove the 3x Duration nodes, they are no longer needed. You need to prioritise your life nodes over jewel slots if you're having issues with survival, unless the jewels are flat life from abyssal jewels (preferably with minion dmg as well).



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Completed 24 ChallengesCyas wrote:
Please add Animate Guardian setups for Solar Guards and TVs.

Thanks for the great build guide! Rerolled the melee version and loving it so far.


Will add this right away!
Build Guide List: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1686036
I go through my forum threads every 2-3 day

https://www.youtube.com/GhazzyTV
https://www.twitch.tv/GhazzyTV
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Danzanus wrote:
Same as few people above have difficulties to staying alive.


One variation I've made to the build was to add in a Vaal Summon Skeleton gem. I originally leveled it up just so I could get the "Behold my Army" achievement, but I've found that dropping an extra 30+ skellies onto a boss really helps with a battle. Death by a thousand cuts, etc... :P

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