Feedback and Suggestions (Path of Exile 1) - It's time for preleveled/preascended characters to enter the shop or be made available somehow. - Forum

" Casual_Ascent wrote: There's no big mystery about how having extra stash tabs and trade tabs can add efficiency (gameplay advantage) over those who don't have them. Come on. You think the trade game involves some kind of IQ gated rocket science degree? lol My point is that IT DOESN'T MATTER because there is no competition in PoE. It's essentially a single player shmup pve time-waster. Nothing more. Nobody 'wins' over anyone else. It's all about having fun and GGG getting paid. :) You say CAN, while I say without a doubt not having to level alt characters and just pay for a leveled one DOES NOW AND FOREVER provide a time savings that simply can't be compared to stash tabs. You don't even have to trade in this game to play the content. It does matter, regardless of competition because of the ethics of the sale of character advances, part of every single ARPG game is leveling, always and forever, this isn't wow where the endgame is raids and what not where leveling really doesn't matter, leveling as far as gearing, planning and choices made throughout the process fundamentally affects characters. Have fun leveling your character. As for GGG getting paid, I don't think they are desperate for money, there are plenty of other things they can do, without breaking their ethical setup they have now. Spoiler Not even going to validate offtopic responses that should be PMs instead. https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285 FeelsBadMan Remove MF from POE, make juiced map the new MF. Last edited by goetzjam#3084 on Jul 4, 2016, 8:53:38 PM	Posted by goetzjam#3084 on Jul 4, 2016, 8:47:34 PM Quote this Post
Well, they'd have to first make their setup 'ethical'. Paid stash tabs certainly are not that. " You don't even have to trade in this game to play the content. With some handy dandy 'ethical?' trade tabs, you barely need to play the content to 'win'.	Posted by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016, 8:53:19 PM
" Casual_Ascent wrote: Well, they'd have to first make their setup 'ethical'. Paid stash tabs certainly are not that. " You don't even have to trade in this game to play the content. With some handy dandy 'ethical?' trade tabs, you barely need to play the content to 'win'. They certainly are that. As stated multiple times before stash space isn't a paid only acquisition, you can create smurf characters and smurf accounts if you feel you need additional stash space. As for ethical, it is open to interpretation, but for you to say "they already broke ethics, why not go further" has got to be one of the worst arguments i've seen in a while. https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285 FeelsBadMan Remove MF from POE, make juiced map the new MF.	Posted by goetzjam#3084 on Jul 4, 2016, 8:55:44 PM Quote this Post
" Albinosaurus wrote: You know, a lot of people have been complaining about how it's p2w (even though it's not), but if that is such a huge issue, it can just be an unlocked feature instead. -Kill Malachai on Merc -Reach level 80 -Complete 10-15 League challenges The whole reason the paid aspect was even brought up is just that many people (myself included) are willing to pay--not just for the feature, but because it would support the devs for finally doing something for us alt-oholics. And I have yet to see how this is an advantage over players that don't do it, because there's nothing a level 60 character can do that a level 80 character that is capable of beating Merc can't do. The challenge requirement is not meant to be hard to reach, but it would put a soft time gate on the feature at the start of fresh leagues. I don't think a hard gate like a month is actually productive, because it disincentivizes playing when the league starts. You guys are still missing the point. It's not about p2w or not p2w. Leveling matters? No, it doesn't. It's a pointless time sink that detracts from the fun of builds--actually seeing those builds. Tired of trolls? Ignore them. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1473168	Posted by Albinosaurus#7360 on Jul 4, 2016, 8:57:14 PM Quote this Post
It's a perfectly logical argument. I'd say that the tabs are even MORE of an advantage in PoE than buying a leveled character would be. Or at the very least, on par. " Leveling matters? No, it doesn't. It's a pointless time sink that detracts from the fun of builds--actually seeing those builds. yep. This would encourage people to play on after their first character ascends through the lab ( /barfs in mouth a little ).	Posted by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016, 8:59:04 PM
" Leveling matters? No, it doesn't. It's a pointless time sink that detracts from the fun of builds--actually seeing those builds. That is your opinion and in this case it happens to not be the correct line of thinking. This is the sort of mentality that players can have after seeing a game like D3 basically do away with the meaning of leveling and giving players choices. Its like saying leveling in D2 didn't matter. Its like saying the choices that GGG gives you when leveling don't matter. This is a problem with "younger" players or this generation of gamers that just want everything ASAP and don't care to actually invest time or energy into anything. The same players that liked the shit league that was perandus. https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285 FeelsBadMan Remove MF from POE, make juiced map the new MF.	Posted by goetzjam#3084 on Jul 4, 2016, 9:08:39 PM Quote this Post
How long does it take you to level to 60 Goetzjam?	Posted by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016, 9:12:57 PM
"Younger players," lol. Please refrain from projecting your imagined stereotypes onto strangers. It reduces down to yet another ad hominem. Stick to the topic. I've been gaming over 25 years and I know the meaning of grind. This game's leveling doesn't matter because it's not a fun experience. Your choices matter? Not when respec exists. Not when you can level to 60 without spending many--if any--points in your tree. It's just more time-consuming to do it that way, and that's all the pre-Merc non-content is. Pointless time sink. What is there TO enjoy about it? The nap? Tired of trolls? Ignore them. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1473168	Posted by Albinosaurus#7360 on Jul 4, 2016, 9:15:51 PM Quote this Post
" Casual_Ascent wrote: How long does it take you to level to 60 Goetzjam? No idea, what relevance does my time leveling have to do with the topic at hand? " I've been gaming over 25 years Cool story https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285 FeelsBadMan Remove MF from POE, make juiced map the new MF.	Posted by goetzjam#3084 on Jul 4, 2016, 9:24:10 PM Quote this Post
I wish I'd pay $20 for a lvl 65 in act 4 merc. Start me a month late I dont care just so I dont have to relevel. Time money and I dont have a good time 0-65. Git R Dun! Last edited by Aim_Deep#3474 on Jul 4, 2016, 9:29:59 PM	Posted by Aim_Deep#3474 on Jul 4, 2016, 9:29:26 PM Quote this Post