It's time for preleveled/preascended characters to enter the shop or be made available somehow.

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Casual_Ascent wrote:

Cool for all!

You mean cool for those willing to spend the money, while leaving those that don't spend money behind or in general slower progression.

You know, a lot of people have been complaining about how it's p2w (even though it's not), but if that is such a huge issue, it can just be an unlocked feature instead.

-Kill Malachai on Merc
-Reach level 80
-Complete 10-15 League challenges

The whole reason the paid aspect was even brought up is just that many people (myself included) are willing to pay--not just for the feature, but because it would support the devs for finally doing something for us alt-oholics.

And I have yet to see how this is an advantage over players that don't do it, because there's nothing a level 60 character can do that a level 80 character that is capable of beating Merc can't do. The challenge requirement is not meant to be hard to reach, but it would put a soft time gate on the feature at the start of fresh leagues. I don't think a hard gate like a month is actually productive, because it disincentivizes playing when the league starts.

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Casual_Ascent wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

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Casual_Ascent wrote:

Cool for all!

You mean cool for those willing to spend the money, while leaving those that don't spend money behind or in general slower progression.

No. For all.

There's nothing to win so it doesn't matter. People who'd rather just boost through, could still do so in the matter of a couple of hours, or whatever it takes. (I'd never do that myself, because I'm a HC solo gamer.)

It is a massive time savings which can be purchased from GGG, not only is it unethical to do such, GGG prides themselves on selling ETHICAL MTX's not gameplay advantages.

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goetzjam wrote:

You realize you are posting on an account that is like 4 months old?

How about you just post on your main instead of your smurf? Because you can't make a comment like you have made here, unless you are indeed on a smurf.

I really don't understand why GGG allows these silly irrelevant personal attacks in the forum. It adds absolutely zero to the conversation. Allowing them just encourages people to do it more. :-(

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Turtledove wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

You realize you are posting on an account that is like 4 months old?

How about you just post on your main instead of your smurf? Because you can't make a comment like you have made here, unless you are indeed on a smurf.

I really don't understand why GGG allows these silly irrelevant personal attacks in the forum. It adds absolutely zero to the conversation. Allowing them just encourages people to do it more. :-(

It is just stating a fact that some people might not know about that player. It isn't a personal attack, I have no issue with new players, I do however have an issue with a player trying to perceive themselves as something in which they are not, which in this case is an experienced player that has been around.

So don't act like I'm the bad guy here when I post on my main account and don't try to act like someone that I am not.

It adds to the conversation because calling people out on their bullshit needs to happen more here, not less. Don't post on a smurf account if you are trying to act like a veteran player.

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Stash tabs are a massive time saver... (gameplay advantage)

Which can be massively offset by the 24 character slots they give you for free. Not only that having stash tabs don't give you an advantage you actually have to know how to use them, whereas paying for a leveled character is just a direct time advantage without the burden of knowledge needing to actually apply it.

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Turtledove wrote:

If one must level up a character in a league to say level 75 (or something?) before you can get a pre-leveled character then how is that an advantage over another player? He would be playing a level 60 character instead of a level 75 character so isn't he giving up some of his advantage? I'm not trying to start a fight with you or anything. I'm just trying to understand.

I play a character to lvl 75, get a new lvl 60 char for free while someone else plays to lvl 75, and starts a new char at lvl 1.

You dont see the advantage of getting a free char over lvling it from scratch?

What is the advantage? Whatever advantage you say there is here (although I don't see one) for arguments sake, let's say that a third person continued playing their level 75 character all the way for the whole time. Now wouldn't that third person have that advantage (whatever you say there is?) over both of the players that started new characters?

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goetzjam wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

You realize you are posting on an account that is like 4 months old?

How about you just post on your main instead of your smurf? Because you can't make a comment like you have made here, unless you are indeed on a smurf.

I really don't understand why GGG allows these silly irrelevant personal attacks in the forum. It adds absolutely zero to the conversation. Allowing them just encourages people to do it more. :-(

It is just stating a fact that some people might not know about that player. It isn't a personal attack, I have no issue with new players, I do however have an issue with a player trying to perceive themselves as something in which they are not, which in this case is an experienced player that has been around.

So don't act like I'm the bad guy here when I post on my main account and don't try to act like someone that I am not.

It adds to the conversation because calling people out on their bullshit needs to happen more here, not less. Don't post on a smurf account if you are trying to act like a veteran player.

It is a personal attack because you're trying to invalidate his opinion by attacking him based on personal data that has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand. You very frequently make these kind of personal attacks. The only reason that I can think of as to why you do this is that you are trying to derail the topic of conversation. Which is troll like behavior that is disruptive and not appreciated.