is lightning coil really that good?

Lets say i receive 1000 physical damage, have 40% physical damage reduction from armours and LC change 300 damage into lightning damage.

So

700 * 0.6 = 420 dmg taken
300 * 0.25 = 75 dmg taken

Total 495 dmg taken

Without LC

1000 * 0.6 = 600 dmg taken

The difference is about 100+ dmg, LC reduces 20% more dmg. Is that correct?

So the main question, is 20% extra dmg reduction worth?

If you've ever done high tier mapping then yes It's god tier beyond measures like things hit VERY very fucking hard when it comes to like fucking t12+ shit.

Even a Cloak of flame is good.

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unlucky_child wrote:

Lets say i receive 1000 physical damage, have 40% physical damage reduction from armours and LC change 300 damage into lightning damage.

So

700 * 0.6 = 420 dmg taken
300 * 0.25 = 75 dmg taken

Total 495 dmg taken

Without LC

1000 * 0.6 = 600 dmg taken

The difference is about 100+ dmg, LC reduces 20% more dmg. Is that correct?

So the main question, is 20% extra dmg reduction worth?

If you're an evasion based character with no armor then its a pretty big difference. It can potentially make a 1 shot, not and smaller hits much more manageable through mitigators like life regen.

If you want to see various EHP possibilities such as LC vs a different armor try this:
https://jsfiddle.net/p7pe80jx/39/embedded/result/

Physical damage is grossly overtuned and high level maps are a total ripfest for everyone not rocking 8000 life or 6000 life with additional mitigation.

this chest is most effective for eva based character, i don't see the point with armor based character where there is much better options.

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reliq wrote:

this chest is most effective for eva based character, i don't see the point with armor based character where there is much better options.

Lol like what?

"physical damage reduction" from armor (ie. that % number next to your armor on your character sheet)is a dirty little liar, pay it no mind.

Lets say you have 3k armor with and without LC, a hit from pure physical damage will end up like this:

Without LC:
1k Damage, mitigation from armor 23,08% = ~770 damage

With LC:
300 lightning damage, mitigation from resists 75% = 75 Damage
700 Damage, mitigation from armor 30% = ~490 Damage

The lower the physical hit in relation to armor, the more damage armor absorbs. On the other hand, should you have more reduction against a physical hit than lightning resistance (ie. a sub 100 damage hit on a 3k armor character) LC will actually *increase* your damage taken.

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Armour for more info on mitigation mechanics of armor.

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reliq wrote:

this chest is most effective for eva based character, i don't see the point with armor based character where there is much better options.

Oh man prepare to be roasted.

Sure is good, it's great for evaders because they get the precious mitigation and it's good for armor because its mitigation gets based on 70% of incoming damage, which is a synergy effect so the effective damage reduction ends up higher that what an evader gets.

I wonder how many people who swear by the efficacy of Lightning Coil + Taste of Hate use Enfeeble. Give that 30-40% increased effectiveness and I can manage tier 10-ish maps with a piddly 2k evasion and 1k armor without the two uniques. Of course I wouldn't be surprised if people who regularly grind out tier 13+ maps for level 100 use both CL + ToH and high-effectiveness Enfeeble simply because you can never have too much defense when you're grinding out level 100.

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gilrad wrote:

Of course I wouldn't be surprised if people who regularly grind out tier 13+ maps for level 100 use both CL + ToH and high-effectiveness Enfeeble simply because you can never have too much defense when you're grinding out level 100.

True enough, I'm not grinding for 100 but playing a melee evade-acro-enfeeble in talisman I could really use extra protection in higher mid tiers, though a ranged char probably wouldn't need it.