[2.1][Talisman HC] Rolling Flames Fireball + Vaal Fireball too! Almost 300% Inc. AOE

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sumding wrote:
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iHaX4TheLuLz wrote:
Is it worth having quality on fireball gem?
Just adds ignite chance right? Not worth it at all. Quality GMP first and foremost.


I have a 14% quality fireball and I find it helps in that I don't have to use flame dash (which gets me in melee range) to ignite the baddie for flame blast.

At level 60, I am finding myself a bit squishy and that's mostly due to the fact that I was focused exclusively on activating all 5 gems in the tree asap; which I was able to do by level 58.
Well hello Mister Fancypants. Well, I've got news for you pal, you ain't leadin' but two things right now: Jack and shit... and Jack left town.
Last edited by Dhrakken#2383 on Jan 14, 2016, 4:17:49 PM
With all the explosions, everything is perma ignited just fine. But yeah, that extra little chance could speed up the process of igniting a single target for flame surge. If you happen upon a quality fireball it certainly can't hurt.

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Dhrakken wrote:

At level 60, I am finding myself a bit squishy and that's mostly due to the fact that I was focused exclusively on activating all 5 gems in the tree asap; which I was able to do by level 58.


Yeah I found myself doing that too as I was leveling, even though I'm in HC. Didn't die though, so it all worked out in the end. :P
Last edited by sumding#1621 on Jan 14, 2016, 11:23:04 AM
Have you tried using a carcass jack with this yet? If so, your thoughts on it?


Well hello Mister Fancypants. Well, I've got news for you pal, you ain't leadin' but two things right now: Jack and shit... and Jack left town.
That 20% increased AOE is a drop in the bucket. It's a 20% increase on the base radius of fireball, which is puny. We already get around 275% from the tree. 12% increased area damage is also hard to notice.

Basically, you can use it, but it really wont change anything.
Well right now it would give me a lot more survivability than what I'm currently using! lol

Well hello Mister Fancypants. Well, I've got news for you pal, you ain't leadin' but two things right now: Jack and shit... and Jack left town.
Well Carcass Jack is most certainly better than that! feel free to use it.
Hey, loving your build thus far! (65 thc)

I am having some trouble with reflect and fire resistant packs in maps so I'm wondering what you think of infernal mantle in this build?

I'm thinking of replacing a gem for fire pen in the fireball setup, would you swap conc effect or controlled destrucion for a fire pen gem?

Oh and do you think grabbing some leech on gear/crafting on wand and going for ghost reaver would be any good?

Sorry for the barrage of questions :p
Last edited by Bazookahero#5711 on Jan 14, 2016, 8:16:25 PM
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Bazookahero wrote:
Hey, loving your build thus far! (65 thc)

I am having some trouble with reflect and fire resistant packs in maps so I'm wondering what you think of infernal mantle in this build?

I'm thinking of replacing a gem for fire pen in the fireball setup, would you swap conc effect or controlled destrucion for a fire pen gem?

Oh and do you think grabbing some leech on gear/crafting on wand and going for ghost reaver would be any good?

Sorry for the barrage of questions :p


I'm level 66 with 75% fire resist and I keep a ruby flask on hand for the bad reflecting mobs. I have no issues at all staying alive.

Also, I think the gem setup in this guide is spot on, even fire resistant mobs just melt, especially against flame surge.
Well hello Mister Fancypants. Well, I've got news for you pal, you ain't leadin' but two things right now: Jack and shit... and Jack left town.
Last edited by Dhrakken#2383 on Jan 15, 2016, 8:05:30 AM
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Bazookahero wrote:
Hey, loving your build thus far! (65 thc)

I am having some trouble with reflect and fire resistant packs in maps so I'm wondering what you think of infernal mantle in this build?

I'm thinking of replacing a gem for fire pen in the fireball setup, would you swap conc effect or controlled destrucion for a fire pen gem?

Oh and do you think grabbing some leech on gear/crafting on wand and going for ghost reaver would be any good?

Sorry for the barrage of questions :p

No problem! I like helping.

Personally, I don't have too many issues with reflect thanks for the amount of ES and life I have combined with arctic armour. There's isn't really any easy way around it. Make sure you cap fire res and hold still so AA can reduce the reflected damage. Ruby flasks are helpful. Don't rush it and kill yourself. As for fire resistant packs you can carry around a flammability to help you. Try standing further away to shotgun hard with the explosions. I wouldn't recommend fire pen, both conc effect and controlled destruction are MORE multipliers meaning a huge source of damage. You may not notice a difference because of it. May even get worse.

Infernal mantle is okay for this build if you can somehow obtain a 5 link. Otherwise I don't think it's worth it. You'll have to get rid of MoM or spells will destroy you. Either way, you become more susceptible to death. Be careful.

As for life leech+GR it could be helpful. But it's hard to get a lot of it. you'd need to dual wield just get .4 from Catarina crafts, and that's already trading up the safety of a shield. How would you get fire damage leech on gear? If that's possible, it's news to me.
Last edited by sumding#1621 on Jan 15, 2016, 4:52:44 AM
What should i focus on the tree first? Left, right? Getting the jewels, life, mana, ES, damage... (hardcore)

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