Compilation of melee / east side of the tree issues
" You're acting like a child. Whenever someone is telling you he's doing fine, you're just nitpicking some nonsensical stuff. PoE has always been changing, meta has been shifting with every major patch, and people have learned to adapt. Since I'm around, I've seen threads with dozens of pages of crying and bitching and begging about... *Iron Reflexes is mandatory *RT is mandatory *armor is useless *crit is better than anything *life builds are screwed *ES builds are screwed *hybrid builds are screwed *physical builds are screwed *elemental builds are screwed *totems/traps/selfcast/minions/melee/range/... are at a disadvantage *... It's just laughable, because still, through all patches, me and countless other people managed to adapt, have found their way. Maybe some weird stuff got lost along the way (I'm not trying to get my quite successful pure lightning Hyaon's fury melee witch back to work since I haven't figured out a tree yet), but you can still pick whatever you want in this game, and if you build and itemize correctly, you can make it work. Just stop running your head against a wall, and start to use it. 3.5 build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2299519
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" I don't know how much you've played, but I would bet that you have about 100 times the currency I do, if not way more. You don't seem to take that into account. There's a reason all the people are whining, and I think you have too many facilities that let you do what you can do. Besides, it doesn't sound like you've tried it. I have. I don't care if I need to drop/change a few things in my build. You've just attacked me, you haven't given a single argument in defense of those mechanics being solid during levels 1-65 in this post, without extremelly expensive gearing from other players (aka not self-found). Edit: I haven't answered either. I'm not nitpicking his build, in fact, his post very much states that arctic armor IS mandatory. That itself says alot about evasion chars - they require some other kind of mitigation. Last edited by ZeroZ30o on Jul 30, 2015, 4:39:01 PM
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" This should be the first page in the PoE handbook Whenever someone tells you something "isn't viable" "aweful" "instadeath" you should take that as a challenge to say NO. Remember that all these forum posts (even this one) is someone's opinion and they can be wrong. People always say Cast on Melee Kill is a joke and my Static Strike COMK Arc is definitely my favorite (close to my block Ranger using a bow) and probably my most tanky and best damage as well. So at least for me if there is a thread 10+ pages long that says evasion is "aweful" you can probably bet the next character I level will be evasion. I need a signature to look legit Last edited by Hunt8722 on Jul 30, 2015, 4:41:16 PM
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" Right now there's 3 ways to sustain: -LL gem with VP Good for ele bows/wanders. -claw with LGOH implicit Good for reavers. -life regen Good for everyone else. They all sucks for single target. In this case you use a sapping/bubbling/catalysed eternal. | |
" Please do. Please do a static strike, evasion ES leech dual wielding crit dagger build with the aura nodes, and I will give you all the kudos. Edit: Ghost reaver, too, and preferrably vaal pact, but that's up to you. And I mean starting from scratch, of course, and with moderately expensive items (total <15c). If you do that, then yes, you'd manage to prove me and many other people wrong. Making a "melee evasion build" is still easy, I'm sure. Giving it more flavour, more variety... that's another story. But, again, I'd love for you to succeed and teach me how, no sarcasm. Last edited by ZeroZ30o on Jul 30, 2015, 5:02:24 PM
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" Same here. Dualwielding life based evasion shadow incoming. ;) --- " Can't tell. Don't really care. Maybe I got some stuff in my standard tabs that is considered very exalt-heavy these days, maybe not. Currency-wise I have like 1 Ex, 10 chaos and some small stuff. :) " In this forum, it is my honest belief that the main reason for people crying is 99% of the time: "What I do doesn't work. Change it for me because I don't want to change." And this thread is a prime example. " Up to maps, countless people make their way with countless builds, using any mechanic in poE. There is nothing to prove for me. " Captain Obvious? As anything else in this game. You can't run pure armor, pure ES, pure evasion or whatever. You have to layer that stuff, use every trick at your disposal: Gear, Gems, Mechanics, positioning... and know your limits. 3.5 build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2299519 Last edited by Peterlerock on Jul 30, 2015, 5:02:17 PM
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" You can run pure armor (and obviously hp, but hp is something common to everyone). Edit: " It's a compilation of all the issues that they've had with melee and especially the east side of the tree, like the title says. I'll gladly change, but I've tried, and whereas before I would hit a brick wall at level 60, now I start dying to spike damage at level ~30, and it goes on and on... it never stops, and this is due to the nature of evasion. When I took Iron Reflexes, this didn't happen. Hence me saying it's better. Last edited by ZeroZ30o on Jul 30, 2015, 5:08:00 PM
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" Lol, you're serious? I would never enter a map with any of my Marauders with pure armor as my sole defense. Endurance Charges Immortal Call Instant Flasks Fortify Lightning Coil Arctic Armor Taste of Hate Defensive Curses Serious life regen/leech ... That stuff is pretty useful for armor builds as well, if not required for survival. You gotta pick at least half of that list, or you'll not have too much fun with your armor build. 3.5 build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2299519
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" To reiterate: I'll gladly change, but I've tried, and whereas before I would hit a brick wall at level 60, now I start dying to spike damage at level ~30, and it goes on and on... it never stops, and this is due to the nature of evasion. When I took Iron Reflexes, this didn't happen. Hence me saying it's better. tl;dr: I've tried this with 2.0, and evasion got me killed with good rare finds (self found) at around level 30, and on and on throughout the whole leveling process. Took IR, all my problems went away. | |
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At lvl 30, you can wear whatever you want/find and still progress.
If you die to spike damage over and over, you need more total life, that's all. But lvl 30 can hardly be considered a "build" or enlighten a discussion about the advantages of armor, evasion or whatever. 3.5 build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2299519
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