[3.13] Enki's Arc Witch - a beginner friendly Lightning Caster

Hi guys, with my current equipment I am able to kill Sirus in one run and finish all shaper and elder fragments maps but I'm not so sure about going in to the key of decay and also key to the crucible. Can anyone take a look at my build and tell me if I will stand a chance in these fights?

my pob: https://pastebin.com/CZubM1iU
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bananacandy98 wrote:
Hi guys, with my current equipment I am able to kill Sirus in one run and finish all shaper and elder fragments maps but I'm not so sure about going in to the key of decay and also key to the crucible. Can anyone take a look at my build and tell me if I will stand a chance in these fights?

my pob: https://pastebin.com/CZubM1iU


Personally I think both of those fights are easier than A8 Sirus. The next one, where you fight both Elder and Shaper at the same time might be a little harder but all of them are really just mechanical, you have the necessary damage. Do watch a video or two though, some of the mechanics are counterintuitive.
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BuckFutter9 wrote:
Personally I think both of those fights are easier than A8 Sirus. The next one, where you fight both Elder and Shaper at the same time might be a little harder but all of them are really just mechanical, you have the necessary damage. Do watch a video or two though, some of the mechanics are counterintuitive.


I see, will check some videos out, thanks!
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Nyangoro wrote:
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Gimdornim wrote:


You are comparing apples and oranges. If you have the budget to set up aura stacker and spend it on Enki's arc witch instead, A8 Sirus and Uber Elder will not be unforgiving. They'll be jokes.


It's merely a myth that the nominal 300% aurastacker build is particularly expensive. If you try to min-max 400% with perfect notables 6 passive clusters, that's when it starts to get exorbitant, but 300% aura value to hit 90% AR? That's easily achieveable with subpar 4-5 passive medium clusters and 1c uniques.


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Gimdornim wrote:

On the other hand, if you're talking about deep delve/100% delirius maps as "endgame content", then I'd agree that this build is not the most efficient use of currency. It never meant to be one anyway, and neither did any other builds that label themselves as beginner.


"Beginner build" is a misnomer if they do not cruise said beginners through endgame content with minimal effort.

Which is the case for this build, because it has a signifcantly higher skill requirement by virtue of demanding the user dodge fatal mechanics that other builds can innately nullify with a similar level of investment.


Can you name any such "beginner build" that will cruise a noob through endgame content? With the possible exception of a summoner build, I can't think of any beginner build that really achieves this.

Enki has always been up-front that he wants people playing his build to actually learn the mechanics of the game and the fights. Learning to dodge the Shaper's slam, for instance, is a good thing for a beginner. I've found the build able to easily tank things that would honestly kill most other builds, though I admit I've invested a fair bit into it at this point. But the build still works well on a reasonable budget, which is important.

I'm not really trying to argue here--there are certainly stronger builds that you can make work with less currency, if you know how--but I do feel it necessary to chime in that I've done all endgame content deathless with this build this league and it's definitely the character I go for when I need something rock-solid.
As a new player the build has been great; straight forward playstyle and decent-enough gear has been easy/cheap enough to find/make/buy. Though I haven't yet done all the endgame content, what I have done has felt challenging but doable. The game is sort of overwhelming for someone new and Enki's detail at the beginning and the active thread here were/are quite helpful.
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Nyangoro wrote:
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Gimdornim wrote:


You are comparing apples and oranges. If you have the budget to set up aura stacker and spend it on Enki's arc witch instead, A8 Sirus and Uber Elder will not be unforgiving. They'll be jokes.


It's merely a myth that the nominal 300% aurastacker build is particularly expensive. If you try to min-max 400% with perfect notables 6 passive clusters, that's when it starts to get exorbitant, but 300% aura value to hit 90% AR? That's easily achieveable with subpar 4-5 passive medium clusters and 1c uniques.


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Gimdornim wrote:

On the other hand, if you're talking about deep delve/100% delirius maps as "endgame content", then I'd agree that this build is not the most efficient use of currency. It never meant to be one anyway, and neither did any other builds that label themselves as beginner.


"Beginner build" is a misnomer if they do not cruise said beginners through endgame content with minimal effort.

Which is the case for this build, because it has a signifcantly higher skill requirement by virtue of demanding the user dodge fatal mechanics that other builds can innately nullify with a similar level of investment.


I've done aura stacker myself in the past league, and from what I see in this league it definitely requires at least 20ex to get going. Post us a character that you've done significantly less than that and we'll discuss. You'll also not be able to do enjoy aura stacking during levelling. Try telling beginner that they'll be on their own until they make it into lvl 80s to transit to aura stacker.

The second paragraph is particularly curious. "Beginner" in my opinion has completely different meaning. It means allowing you to learn about the game and do all contents, but the contents will still provide challenges. You'll not be afking Sirus storm, afking blight, stomping through T17+ delirius maps like they are T1s. If something requires dodging/repositioning/planning, you'll have to do so. You won't die if you just eat a fraction of Sirus beam due to high MoM, which makes Sirus less punishing than for most beginner builds(most I've played will simply die), but you will definitely die if you just want to stand still and spam arc. So it allows you to beat Sirus, but you still need to learn him. You seem to think that a beginner build should definitely prevent the character from dying in all situations. That's not a beginner build. That's an immortal build, which is created with a special purpose in mind: face tanking everything. Let us take a look at some long-living beginner builds on forum: spectre, ED trickster, TR pathfinder, etc. Which one is designed so that you can face tank Sirus? You can certainly try any builds that pleases you, and I used Enki's arc as a league starter myself to earn enough currency for 2 other builds I'm playing atm. But blaming not being able to finish Sirus on Enki's arc is to me a bit like blaming not being able to finish twilight strand -- you can still die there, but it's likely user error.
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Nyangoro wrote:

"Beginner build" is a misnomer if they do not cruise said beginners through endgame content with minimal effort.

Which is the case for this build, because it has a signifcantly higher skill requirement by virtue of demanding the user dodge fatal mechanics that other builds can innately nullify with a similar level of investment.


I also want to chime in to mention the useful details provided by this guide.

I agree your point that this build cannot be totally newbie-free due to the lack of tankiness at end game. However, with so many details, this guide is helpful to develop a beginner out of their newbie zone.

I haven't found another guide that can explain details e.g. leveling suggestions so well like this one.
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Can you name any such "beginner build" that will cruise a noob through endgame content? With the possible exception of a summoner build, I can't think of any beginner build that really achieves this.


I mean, you answered the question yourself. But even putting summoner builds aside, the aura variant of Arc is definitely in the middle of non-aura Arc and summoners in terms of difficulty, if a balance between "beginner-friendly" and "learning mechanics" is truly sought after.

At the very least, the frustration of getting one-shotted by a stray hit in between block chance failing and Arcane Surge dropping would be much lesser.
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Gimdornim wrote:


I've done aura stacker myself in the past league, and from what I see in this league it definitely requires at least 20ex to get going. Post us a character that you've done significantly less than that and we'll discuss.


Did you skip past the point where I mentioned 4-5 passive medium clusters were significantly cheaper than their counterparts? I know this, because when I leveled my aura stacker this league I was sitting on 4-5 medium passive clusters when levelling pre-90, simply because they were so cheap.

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Gimdornim wrote:

You'll also not be able to do enjoy aura stacking during levelling. Try telling beginner that they'll be on their own until they make it into lvl 80s to transit to aura stacker.


I don't quite understand this non-sequitur - guides revolving around aura stacking can, and have, for the record, guided their readers how to slowly increase the number of auras as they level, and which to prioritize. Some don't of course, but I don't think playing to confirmation bias is really the game you wish to play here.

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Gimdornim wrote:

The second paragraph is particularly curious. "Beginner" in my opinion has completely different meaning. It means allowing you to learn about the game and do all contents, but the contents will still provide challenges.


Which then begs the question: why are you so vehemently against the notion of aura stacking arc? If you truly mean what you say here, then having a middle-ground option lined up for less mechanical players who instead are better at the theorycrafting portion of the game, should be a viable option instead of one that should be shot down on sight.

It's not like aura stacking arc has all the advantages of that of their aura stacking summoner counterparts, like body blocking, the full array of defensive debuffs and the ability to run around without stopping to dps.
Last edited by Nyangoro on Nov 24, 2020, 3:43:08 PM
Hi folks, do you have any advice why may i run out of mana on bossfights so fast?

here is my POB: https://pastebin.com/5CrPGJBN

and maybe you can tell me what to improve to get more DPS cuz i got stuck at this moment

Survability is quite good till i dash in pack of strong mobs so i am now curious what to upgrade for better DPS.

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