Something Different: Things POE does really well.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

PoE is good at weeding out the bad players that think they are knowledgeable but are really in denial.

AKA "omg all these changes need to happen to make PoE molded exactly to me, it's the games fault that I can't do this or that or compete with the top people, it's not my fault"

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Charanjaydemyr wrote:

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DarthSki44 wrote:

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Charanjaydemyr wrote:

Original setting, lore and classes. There is very little "generic fantasy" in Wraeclast these days, and watching them patch it out has been fascinating.

I would disagree that the classes are "different" or done in any way that seems original.

I'm also not sure how you are missing the "Generic Fantasy" either. Three element magic with Dex, Int, Str based abilities is about as classic as you get. "Heroes" adventuring to kill an evil overlord certainly hasn't been done before.... oh wait.

I think their most innovative creation is having varied orb currency and crafting intertwined. Now while I think crafting can still be better, it has proven to be a pretty good sink. Vendor recipes are also well done and pretty unique.

I put heroes in quotes because you could insert your own protagonist cliche there.

The large warrior, female magic user, hunter, assassin, ect... is pretty straightforward. As far as their motives... they all seemingly have good intentions. I'm mean you are helping out townsfolk most of the time. I would love a change to that pace.

You're helping them for one reason: personal gain. Pay more attention to the dialogue. The NPCs by and large do not trust you, and even at times fear what you may become.

As for the archetypes, sure, they're not that unusual but you've reduced it to an almost inescapable level of commonality (fighter, mage, assassin, etc). I'm talking about the presentation of those archetypes. A murderer, a child-stealing heretic, an apostate, a lesbian poacher, a runaway slave, a glory-hunting arena adrenaline-junkie.

We are not heroes. We're not 'questing' to save the world or to beat the big bad. That's almost incidental on our rise to power and personal achievement. Wraeclast twists those original intentions to its own ends -- again, pay more attention to the dialogue.

Unfortunately all you've talked about is the surface, whereas I'm looking at details and thematic complexity. I shouldn't be that surprised, all things considered, and just replying to you seems to be stooping, but hey, I'm polite like that.

To an extent.

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Raycheetah wrote:

OP creates a thread for discussion of what GGG does well in PoE. Usual suspects and malcontents arrive to derail with more bitching.

Typical. ='[.]'=

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Druga1757 wrote:

edit: It's also not surprising that a thread criticizing GGG/PoE gets immediately buried in the feedback forum. But one that praises GGG? Yea, it gets to stay in General Discussion.

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Druga1757 wrote:

edit: It's also not surprising that a thread criticizing GGG/PoE gets immediately buried in the feedback forum. But one that praises GGG? Yea, it gets to stay in General Discussion.

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Hypomaniac wrote:

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Druga1757 wrote:

edit: It's also not surprising that a thread criticizing GGG/PoE gets immediately buried in the feedback forum. But one that praises GGG? Yea, it gets to stay in General Discussion.

Riiight, like all the threads that seem to stick around in there when patches roll around that people don't like? Or the nerfs? shieeet...

I like it how GGG's constantly coming out with huge updates and additions to the game. Nobody asks for it, and they're not obligated to.

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Druga1757 wrote:

And for the model that GGG has set up, they ARE obligated to constantly patch the game with updates and additions. If it weren't for that, people would stop playing. New leagues with no new content? I would imagine the player numbers would drop even faster.