Lvl 77, out of maps, Back to docks? yea right

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SL4Y3R wrote:

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Noobshock wrote:

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BazzV5 wrote:

So let me get this straight.

People would be happier if they were to hit the XP wall a couple of levels higher than now IF they had random areas to farm for maps rather than static areas to farm maps?

I'm pretty sure that's one of the very reason for the existence of maps in the first place: alleviate the boring and repetitive nature of always farming the same zones.

But I guess it's much more fun if we make those random areas tied to RNG to a point where they're a scarce commodity unless you're playing in groups and pooling them.

They're not a scare commodity. You don't need to pool them in a group.

Pooling does help alot though, especially when the inevitable RNG dry streak lands on your head with a thud.

But you don't NEED to do it.

Agreed

I have said this before, and will keep saying it until it is changed.

Once players have reached the "end game" they should have direct access to it. Maps dropping randomly to access the end game is a bad decision. Instead the lowest level maps should be accessible from vendors for a basic currency trade.

What is the point of having the best "end game" when your players cannot access it properly? I will stop playing (which means supporting) this game when this happens to me.

You can already trade currency for maps. Just ask in the trade channel.

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Lionguild wrote:

You can already trade currency for maps. Just ask in the trade channel.

That was my initial thought too. At level 77, doing highlevel maps, you should have a ton of currency which should enable you to buy new maps as needed.

You forgot the part where when you outlevel the content, your currency drop rates are reduced.

So if you're having shit luck with maps and outlevel the content, the game is working against you for currency drops too.

I have found out that rather than shortage of maps, I lack chisels. On my way to lvl75--that is when I start going into maps solo--I have gotten 14 maps but only 23 chisels. I have never trade away map or chisel.

I have now did some 25-30 maps, all but 1 solo. I believe I can sustain my map usage as long as I quality and roll maps carefully. I have run into a situation where I run out of chisels rather than maps, which is another issue.

I tend to get 1 map per clear of quality map. I also try to roll maps with maze or massive mod + the other mod either one increasing quantity or adding more rare/magic/unique monsters into the map.

I must admit that I do not run maps back to back, I still go into Docks, Lunaris or Catacombs for currency, item drops and some exp (poor exp...).

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Noobshock wrote:

You forgot the part where when you outlevel the content, your currency drop rates are reduced.

So if you're having shit luck with maps and outlevel the content, the game is working against you for currency drops too.

This is only valid for static areas in the game world. Once you start going into maps, you are not penalized in terms of currency drops, ie. lowest map is 66 while players are considered max lvl68 for drop calculation, +/- 2 levels with no penalty.
Even in static maps, currency penalty is 7.5 to 10% in majority of Act3 maps. Other drop rates should not be penalized at all.

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Noobshock wrote:

You forgot the part where when you outlevel the content, your currency drop rates are reduced.

So if you're having shit luck with maps and outlevel the content, the game is working against you for currency drops too.

From past experience I've still found way more currency once I've reached higher levels farming lower levels, that is simply because you get to a point where you can clear so fast it makes up for the penalty.

Also the 2.5% is so tiny, it means for every 200 currency items you find 5 less than normally, but with increased quantity and rarity it balances it out as well.

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Noobshock wrote:

You forgot the part where when you outlevel the content, your currency drop rates are reduced.

So if you're having shit luck with maps and outlevel the content, the game is working against you for currency drops too.

And you forgot the part where you don't receive the penalty in a lvl63+ zone.