NERF freakin daggers

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Charanjaydemyr wrote:

Why? A well placed dagger thrust can match any two handed attack. So no, not "right".

It should come down to the skill of the wielder, and the defence it faces. I mean, not that any of it makes a lick of sense anyway. PoE is not balanced around what is " right".

I do think 2h nodes need a universal buff. The potential for flat damage should be significantly higher than with smaller, precision based weapons.

But like I said, none of it is sensible. None. Don't argue balance around logic or real world precedents. That way lies madness.

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Thalandor wrote:

Yes nerf the crit rate of daggers, and how crit multiplier works in general (made other posts about this).

As for buff to two-handers... the only thing I came up with that makes both logical and mechanical sense without going all out bonkers on base 2h weapon stats is:

Make 2hers benefit twice from flat damage mods on non-weapon pieces of gear. It has to be ~200% in order to keep proportional DPS bonus from these mods between 1hers and 2hers.

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RogueMage wrote:

GGG has shown time and again that they are extremely reluctant to retroactively nerf existing items that players have spent currency to acquire. That means we are likely stuck with Loath Bane and its ilk, with their overpowered and unrealistic base damage and crit rates.

So what can be done? The underlying problem with both crit chance and crit multiplier is their completely unrestrained ability to exceed reasonable limits. Critical strikes are supposed to be finishing blows, not full-time steroid-fueled rampages. In practice, setting the critical chance limit at 100% has ruined combat balance. Maximum effective crit chance should be capped at 50% along with a diminishing returns formula.

Likewise, an unbounded crit multiplier function does nothing but trivialize all sense of spike damage in the game. While I don't think there should be a hard cap on effective crit multiplier, a diminishing returns formula should also be used to make stacking of more than about 200% crit multiplier superfluous.

Beyond those important refinements to the PoE combat engine, I think GGG should consider implementing a new melee effectiveness rating for each weapon type. This would be a multiplicative factor similar to the damage effectiveness of various attack and support skills (e.g. Dual Strike deals 90% of base damage, Lightning Strike deals 130%). In actual combat, heavy two-hand weapons like maces would have far more damage effectiveness than light one-hand weapons like daggers. This concept is comparable to how armor works it PoE - it is far more effective against a flurry of smaller hits than against a single high power hit.