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all that is bullcrap, it's easy to figure out ratios, it's just that ppl needing fast a little currency (EXAMPLE: FUSES) will pay it more by paying in exalts or so, because time is money and money is currency lol...
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Posted byUniversalis#5776on Jul 9, 2014, 3:09:39 PM
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I think the biggest part you're missing is that it's actually very, very difficult to get the 2:1 rates you are talking about. Yes, people post WTB Fuse 2:1c all the time, but it's *really* hard to find someone willing to do that trade. It just gets posted like that by flippers because it's the nearest round number, I'm pretty sure.
while i agree it's really hard but there's always someone that bites the bait, then they do the same to somebody else and so on until most of them only knows 2 fus = 1c
if they wanted to round they could always just do 10:13, or 3:4, but even then this rate is wrong due to vendoring orbs to the vendor cheaper and selling more expensive
Sure, but those people then also don't "know" that Fuse is 45:1ex either. They may have seen it on the Noticeboard or Trade Chat but they ignore it because it's not within their trading range.
So it's less a question of math and more a question of people not making the effort to actually learn the market. Some people just want to play and not think about it.
that's a really nice poit, though drops are random, someone could drop exalt at hillock, check the rates at a website and see someone selling for a ridiculous price in trade chat and trades with that guy just to get some profit, just to figure out 2 days later that the deal he made was really bad, i don't know about you but if that happened to me i wouldn't be too happy about playing this game again
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Posted byn0stic#5152on Jul 9, 2014, 3:17:47 PM
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all that is bullcrap, it's easy to figure out ratios, it's just that ppl needing fast a little currency (EXAMPLE: FUSES) will pay it more by paying in exalts or so, because time is money and money is currency lol...
it actually takes more time for you to do that because you need someone that doesn't know anything about the game to trade just so you could profit from it
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Posted byn0stic#5152on Jul 9, 2014, 3:20:20 PM
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The players that really care about getting equal value for their currency usually spam ask in global / google for a general idea on rates, it's what I did when I started.
The players that just trade for any offer that sounds reasonable don't seem to care much for the real rates, they just want the fusings / chaos / chromatics etc.
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Posted byarchiadus#5668on Jul 9, 2014, 3:41:30 PM
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never use currency exchange sites. who do you think runs those?
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Posted bycomm_il_vec#0994on Jul 9, 2014, 4:37:07 PM
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That's the point of a trade system in the game. Those who care know the rates and get rich, those who don't play the game and lose (if you can call it that) from trades.
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Posted byvaskov17#7159on Jul 9, 2014, 4:50:28 PM
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never use currency exchange sites. who do you think runs those?
exactly
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Posted byn0stic#5152on Jul 9, 2014, 6:06:04 PM
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That's the point of a trade system in the game. Those who care know the rates and get rich, those who don't play the game and lose (if you can call it that) from trades.
yes but it shouldnt be like that, it's bad for new players
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Posted byn0stic#5152on Jul 9, 2014, 6:08:26 PM
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That's the point of a trade system in the game. Those who care know the rates and get rich, those who don't play the game and lose (if you can call it that) from trades.
yes but it shouldnt be like that, it's bad for new players
Then you are looking at a streamlined system that makes information easily available and that's was generally disliked in D3. I think GGG has some dream trade system where people engage each other in trades but I think the problem in that dream system is the existence of currency. Once you involve currency, the trade system is no longer about bartering and trading but about buying and selling. Once that happens, the system has to be made user friendly and the most user friendly system I've seen was the D3 auction house.
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Posted byvaskov17#7159on Jul 9, 2014, 6:37:18 PM
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That's the point of a trade system in the game. Those who care know the rates and get rich, those who don't play the game and lose (if you can call it that) from trades.
yes but it shouldnt be like that, it's bad for new players
Then you are looking at a streamlined system that makes information easily available and that's was generally disliked in D3. I think GGG has some dream trade system where people engage each other in trades but I think the problem in that dream system is the existence of currency. Once you involve currency, the trade system is no longer about bartering and trading but about buying and selling. Once that happens, the system has to be made user friendly and the most user friendly system I've seen was the D3 auction house.
Pretty much. Or rather, different currency is a big factor here. The more different currency with different and strongly varying exchange rates exist, the harder it becomes to put a price on an item.
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Posted bywlfbck#6588on Jul 9, 2014, 6:51:21 PMBanned
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