whats the point of VP when acuity exists?

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chromafunk wrote:
Getting the OP items is the whole point of this game.
It was the same in Diablo2 and that was again the whole point of it. You had to fight through earth and hell ( literally ) to get that OP item.

I have been playing a while now, and at one point i sold all my gear to buy a crown of eyes and start over from there. Getting a crown of eyes didn't made me OP by any means. The atziry glives themselves won't make you faceroll any content or become inmortal. Yet those are a great addition to any crit build, that is well deserved by those who have been able to be GG enough sto beat the difficult content GGG has created. So, i don't see any problem and those items existing. i don't want GGG to nerf them either. It is a cool and expensive item designed for those who can achieve to afford them.

If you work hard enough and develop the skill required to finally get them you will just enjoy them and stop whining. If you don't have one pair yet it's because you are not at that level of a good player yet . Keep on working.


The only way i d be totally OK with that item is if they buff vaal pact back.Otherwise it is an insult to the keystone itself and to the poorer players.VP got nerfed because it was supposed to be overpowered(something with i do not personally agree,it was OP only for some builds),and ppl who played broken builds,just became more powerfull than ever
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/417287 - Poutsos Flicker Nuke Shadow
Why does MoM exist when cloak of defiance exists?

Why does RT exist when Lioneye's glare exists?

Why does Blood magic exist when blood magic gem and malachi's simula exist?

Why does conduit exist when Lochtonial Caress exists?

Why does pain attunement exist when crown of thorns exists?

Why does ghost reaver exist when Essentia Sanguis exists?

Why does unwavering stance exist when kaom's roots exists?








Items have had keystones abilities, or better, for a long LONG time. It's not a problem. It introduces build variety by allowing people to get a keystone without literally having to travel to it which would ruin many builds.
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Sprongley wrote:
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Malone wrote:
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vvooee wrote:
Vaal pact is for those who cant pay 250+ exalts for the gloves. Which is around 99% of the people.


You can buy the gloves for a lot less than that.


Hey OP hopefully this clears it up for you:

Acuity = 250 exalts
VP = free

Acuity = affordable by 0.001% of players
VP = available for all players

Acuity = only accessible from Uber Atziri (I can't even kill normal Atziri)
VP = accessible for all players

Acuity = leeches 100% life and mana instantly but incredibly expensive
VP = leeches 60% and free

Acuity = much better than VP, much more expensive
VP = much worse than acuity, free

Try to understand that not all players in this game can afford acuity. I've been playing regularly since Jan 2013 and I am far from being able to afford acuity.

Can I borrow your palms? My two palms aren't deep enough to place my face in


Haha well said. Here is another example: http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Shavronne%27s_Wrappings vs http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Solaris_Lorica
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demivion wrote:

Why does RT exist when Lioneye's glare exists?


Is this a joke?
GGG does not balance the game around standard.

Making something extremely hard to obtain is effective balancing in a time limited league.
The vast majority of players will never be able to get those gloves themselves or save up enough to buy them in 4 months.
It is good to have items that reward the extremely dedicated for their dedication.

When I kill a man he stays dead.
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Teridax wrote:
VP is usually taken when playing super damage builds to survive reflect like crit builds.

acuity is 100% leech efficient and leeches mana too, and saves lots nodes.



is there any point in VP?

its extremely dissapointing to see an item essentially have a version of a keystone superior to the passive tree version in every way, especially since the passive tree is what is meant to make PoE special, not the gear.



Either VP needs a buff or the gloves need a nerf. These gloves are against the fundamentals of this game, far worse for gameplay than angelic wings are for graphics.


Other than that VP is not dependent on crits?
Other than the fact that VP could theoretically stack with Acuity?

Nah, no reason it exists at all.
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DeviantLightning wrote:

Other than the fact that VP could theoretically stack with Acuity?



not sure to understand how it could "stack", pleae elaborate.
But it is interesting to test what happen if you have both.
IGN TylordRampage
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mucker wrote:
[...]

Making something extremely hard to obtain is effective balancing in a time limited league. The vast majority of players will never be able to get those gloves themselves or save up enough to buy them in 4 months. It is good to have items that reward the extremely dedicated for their dedication.


This. People being easily offended by unobtainable items are hilarious.

It's not even like Acuity is imperative to beat any content available in a reasonable amount of time.
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Nightmare90 wrote:
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mucker wrote:
[...]

Making something extremely hard to obtain is effective balancing in a time limited league. The vast majority of players will never be able to get those gloves themselves or save up enough to buy them in 4 months. It is good to have items that reward the extremely dedicated for their dedication.


This. People being easily offended by unobtainable items are hilarious.

It's not even like Acuity is imperative to beat any content available in a reasonable amount of time.


tbh this is the same mentality as league of legends players with "exclusive" skins and wow players with mounts/high end gear not wanting others to have it.

It's like "I have this and it's the only thing that makes me feel special so if yo have it too i no longer feel special"

I'll never understand the mentality of kids like that. Like, do you need to have something someone else doesn't to add significance to your life?

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demivion wrote:
Why does MoM exist when cloak of defiance exists?

Why does RT exist when Lioneye's glare exists?

Why does Blood magic exist when blood magic gem and malachi's simula exist?

Why does conduit exist when Lochtonial Caress exists?

Why does pain attunement exist when crown of thorns exists?

Why does ghost reaver exist when Essentia Sanguis exists?

Why does unwavering stance exist when kaom's roots exists?








Items have had keystones abilities, or better, for a long LONG time. It's not a problem. It introduces build variety by allowing people to get a keystone without literally having to travel to it which would ruin many builds.


are you serious? half of those you mentioned nobody even uses the items and the keystone is hand downs better than the item you're bringing up
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1000307
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Poutsos wrote:
Because very very very few none crit builds deal high enough damage,for the nerfed vaal pact worth taking.I do not nesceserily beleive that the gloves are a badly designed item.I beleive the VP nerf was a badly designed nerf.

And for those builds there is a cheap and balanced option - BloodSeeker.

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Poutsos wrote:

Also i ve shared that opinion a hundred times so far,but isntead of gating atziri content,making the items mostly RMT food,they should just made the content available,through having guaranteed fragments on every corrupt area,and having atziri have a guaranteed uber fragment drop rate,all with equal chances,but at the same time,making all fragments and uber atziri uniques acount bound.


Yes, you're right there. Difficulty content should be gated behind its own difficulty, not behind farming faceroll low-level content.
I want to farm Atziri with my Shadow, and i am capable of doing that. But then i think about how many hours i should farm Sarn (or other areas) for fragments, and forget that crazy idea...

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demivion wrote:
Why does MoM exist when cloak of defiance exists?

Why does RT exist when Lioneye's glare exists?

Why does Blood magic exist when blood magic gem and malachi's simula exist?

Why does conduit exist when Lochtonial Caress exists?

Why does pain attunement exist when crown of thorns exists?

Why does ghost reaver exist when Essentia Sanguis exists?

Why does unwavering stance exist when kaom's roots exists?


Only Cloak of Defiance complain is justified. And indeed, a lot of MoM builds use Cloak of Defiance, because it's better, than original keystone.

Others:
RT applies to any weapon, not just bows. Melee weapons can have much higher damage, than LG.
Blood Magic gem removes 1 link and doubles the cost.
Lochtonian Caress has absolutely SHITTY stats.
Crown of throrns has absolutely SHITTY stats.
Good claws can have MUCH higher damage, than Essentia Sanguis.
Kaom's roots' stats arent amazing, and for CI character, they're useless. Lioneye's Paws for low-life chars also have a severe drawback.
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