General Discussion - Where are all the citizens of Sarn? - Forum

" CharanJaydemyr wrote: We know that Dominus DOES exile a lot of people -- every human you kill between the Strand and the Sceptre is probably an Exile 'gone wrong'. Definitely not. the cannibals and thugs are the descendants of the Azmeri people, the civilization in Wraeclast before the Cataclysm event that basically blew it up. The pirate ghosts are, well, pirates.	Posted by elitedesolator#6827 on May 15, 2014, 1:28:19 AM Quote this Post
" elitedesolator wrote: " CharanJaydemyr wrote: We know that Dominus DOES exile a lot of people -- every human you kill between the Strand and the Sceptre is probably an Exile 'gone wrong'. Definitely not. the cannibals and thugs are the descendants of the Azmeri people, the civilization in Wraeclast before the Cataclysm event that basically blew it up. The pirate ghosts are, well, pirates. Well, the pirates could have been exiled at some point. The lootable bodies are actually dead exiles.	Posted by Deleted on May 15, 2014, 3:01:10 AM
" DirkAustin wrote: Well, the pirates could have been exiled at some point. The lootable bodies are actually dead exiles. Yeah. Weird though. I seem to remember from before that there used to be character bodies lying around, and a few months ago they changed it to generic corpses. Maybe that's cause there are the rogue exiles now. Plus I guess it's kinda icky to loot a dead woman's corpse. Sometimes by firing an arrow or a spell at it. Last edited by elitedesolator#6827 on May 15, 2014, 3:08:43 AM	Posted by elitedesolator#6827 on May 15, 2014, 3:05:26 AM Quote this Post
" Altnaharra wrote: "Well, that escalated quickly." Exile "Bullshit, you get the game for free." -Qarl	Posted by GingerBeast#2089 on May 15, 2014, 3:17:17 AM Quote this Post
" CharanJaydemyr wrote: I should have elaborated there. Two things to emphasise: 1) 'harness the power' means much more than just 'using'. It is very likely the Exile (the capital E is significant here) is able to use the gems in a way no other exile has. Take the bandit lords, for example -- they have a few tricks, but they're clearly not fully utilising their gems. This is probably explaining away monster abilities too easily, but I think it's GGG using the Guild Wars 1 model again -- monsters in that game almost exclusively used player skills, which could then be captured (vaguely simulated by skill gems dropping, but capturing skills in GW1 was infinitely more satisfying). Blackguard Elites and Rhoas use Shield Charge, Kuduku uses Spark, etc etc. Only the Exile can freely mix-up the gem combinations. I think it's fair to say as well that only the Exile has a Skilldrasil, i.e. a growth of abilities directly related to the number of Wraeclastians killed. 2) 'adverse effects' are all over the place. Ignoring the Undying and the wealth of information in the Library regarding the corruption of the gems, it's very clear that Piety is trying to fully exploit the gems by experimenting on exiles (and probably Azmeri and other unfortunate humans of Wraeclast) to create, essentially, the Exile. Most of her miscreations have limited forms of the skills the Exile develops well beyond any thaumaturgical limitations. There may be some statement about Wraeclast there: no amount of science, magic or other 'artificial' means of empowerment can replace good old-fashioned experience found through slaughtering copious amounts of enemies first-hand. Addressing the idea of Tarkleigh using gems, that's probable but I think he's seen what happens when someone uses a gem too much, and is very careful not to go there himself. Interesting. I suppose "the Exile" was always supposed to be special in some way or another. From the trailers and the gameplay it also seems that Dominus didn't exile people at random. Maybe the reveal will be in Act 4? There's also the mystery about the Gemling Queen of course. About how she might have played a part in the Cataclysm and how she managed to survive completely unscathed.	Posted by elitedesolator#6827 on May 15, 2014, 3:19:55 AM Quote this Post
Lemme just throw this is the mix, and mess it all up for everyone. Why did the queen stuff her victums with gems before she killed them? Why do gems seem to "simply loved to be held?" and does the gems leveling up have anything to do with it? Gems explode if you try to break them, making them dangerous, why is this? The Scion seems to also have something to do with how this all binds together possibly. Where do the gems come from and what does the device made to enter maps have to do with the entities that "knock at the door". Who is the shadow that wants to "show the end of the world". How come dominus and the vaal queen both seem to require lots of bodies? How did they figure out to do these things? Who told them? Why does dominus transform whhen you kill him? How come it seems as if death triggers mutation? What was the twisted visage that a Vaal citizen saw in the reflection? Explain Grigor's nightmares of a almost future peering ability. Why are the vaal gems more violent than normal gems? What is a nightmare gem?	Posted by Pilla#0096 on May 15, 2014, 3:28:54 AM Quote this Post
There are subtle clues throughout Wraeclast but I suspect the citizens must all be in a wondrous land where RNG does not exist, and the market is filled with the most coveted of items: Spoiler Perhaps one day, we will be able to join them, and we shall be exiles no more.	Posted by Tyrfalger#6454 on May 15, 2014, 3:32:56 AM Quote this Post
Charan: Well I suppose it's understandable. They're a small company of devs who naturally focus more on gameplay than the storyline. Not saying that's not important of course, I enjoy a great, fully fleshed-out story as much as the next guy. Regarding the cliched "chosen one" dynamic. I have another thought. Whatever Dominus' end goal was, the way he approached it was definitely a numbers game. He may have had some sort of mechanism to choose who he exiles, but even if he didn't and he exiles enough people, sooner or later natural selection a la Wraeclast is going to pick off anyone but the strongest. From his point of view exiling criminals, murderers and those with special talents definitely shorterns his numbers game. So from that view maybe it isn't a "chosen one" thing after all. The exile and the player by extension is just someone strong enough to survive and excel in Wraeclast. Fits with GGG's whole design philosophy too.	Posted by elitedesolator#6827 on May 15, 2014, 3:39:33 AM Quote this Post
I couldn't have asked for a more potent instrument.	Posted by Pilla#0096 on May 15, 2014, 3:56:33 AM Quote this Post
Well, i think dominus exiled many people because he hoped one of them would get to him and that would mean he would probably kill us and harvest our gems and our body for more power i imagine. I dont think any of our chars is the chosen one but we were the one in terms of being THE ONE exile who got that far to meet him and fight him. Pietys experiments were clearly about putting gems directly into bodies instead of placing them outside of them. She wanted to see how much stronger the gems and the person with the gems would get. It ended kinda like the movie the fly, instead of a stronger being per se she created 'brundle fly' like monsters.	Posted by Deleted on May 15, 2014, 4:17:42 AM