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Given I've seen one defender, your percentage seems accurate.
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missuse wrote:
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I_NO wrote:
so much jello in da thread


I believe 90% of the jelly people who hate snapshoting did not even get to normal atzri.

Gz HvR, a great example of what a dedicated person is able to achieve.


100% people who defend it are snapshot abusers.


very wrong conclusion, I play this game on such a low level, I can't be bothered to use such fancy pro mechanics. But given that this mechanic is present in the game, developers know about it, yet they are reluctant to change it, I can't see in which way exactly is using this mechanic, abuse?
Furthermore, why does every thread about atziri/uber atziri kill(s) turn to snapshot hating fest, while this issue is seldom talked about outside these threads?

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Grats but who cares no need to make threads for attention instead invest the time on feedback to fix the game.
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missuse wrote:


very wrong conclusion, I play this game on such a low level, I can't be bothered to use such fancy pro mechanics. But given that this mechanic is present in the game, developers know about it, yet they are reluctant to change it, I can't see in which way exactly is using this mechanic, abuse?
Furthermore, why does every thread about atziri/uber atziri kill(s) turn to snapshot hating fest, while this issue is seldom talked about outside these threads?



Reluctancy? Or inability? They already said they would like to see it fixed but it probably takes some changes to the game engine or some kind of work around because they didn't foresee this and didn't plan ahead accordingly.
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TGeorge wrote:
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missuse wrote:


very wrong conclusion, I play this game on such a low level, I can't be bothered to use such fancy pro mechanics. But given that this mechanic is present in the game, developers know about it, yet they are reluctant to change it, I can't see in which way exactly is using this mechanic, abuse?
Furthermore, why does every thread about atziri/uber atziri kill(s) turn to snapshot hating fest, while this issue is seldom talked about outside these threads?



Reluctancy? Or inability? They already said they would like to see it fixed but it probably takes some changes to the game engine or some kind of work around because they didn't foresee this and didn't plan ahead accordingly.


I have no knowledge or experience in software development, or coding of any kind. But I don't see how these kinds of changes are complicated to implement. Simply every time the passive tree or gear is changed make a check of character stats and load appropriate ones. Why would that be hard to do for someone who coded the whole game?

On the other hand, just getting to uber atziri takes a lot of dedication from a player, and the whole map is made so over the top (I mean 100% fire res for atziri, constant IC on trio bosses, avoiding being hit from even the retard magic mobs anywhere in the map...). I find it quite understandable that anyone attempting this boss will try to maximize the char they are doing it with.
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missuse wrote:

I have no knowledge or experience in software development, or coding of any kind. But I don't see how these kinds of changes are complicated to implement. Simply every time the passive tree or gear is changed make a check of character stats and load appropriate ones. Why would that be hard to do for someone who coded the whole game?

On the other hand, just getting to uber atziri takes a lot of dedication from a player, and the whole map is made so over the top (I mean 100% fire res for atziri, constant IC on trio bosses, avoiding being hit from even the retard magic mobs anywhere in the map...). I find it quite understandable that anyone attempting this boss will try to maximize the char they are doing it with.


I have a bit of knowledge but I can't really tell without access to the code itself but I don't see why they would state they want it fixed and then not fix it unless it's not that easy to implement.

And yes the fight itself is probably balanced around the existence of snapshotting so I'm not condemning anyone for using it on Atziri. I just dislike the mechanic itself.
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As for all those taking it as an excuse to whine about snapshoting, you are wasting your time. As far as I know it's allowed.
Besides using snapshoting to run like 1-2 more aura isn't a so huge advantage. He would have defeated uber atziri without snapshoting. In my opinion it's not comparable to what snapshoting RF gives.

In this very case, if you really want to complain about something you should whine about surgeron flask /and or Low life-Shavronne. "Please nerf OP Flasks", "why shavronne is in this game"...

=.= Pls ignore my old threads (more than 1 month ago) =.=
He would have probably still done it even without snapshotting, if we are being honest. The main reason his build and every other build except RF kills her is... Surgeon flask. It's constant uptime on 100% resists. He could have stood still and spammed attack.
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Oracle87 wrote:
Gratz HvC. We will finally find the last uniques on the market in invasion.

As for all those taking it as an excuse to whine about snapshoting, you are wasting your time. As far as I know it's allowed.
Besides using snapshoting to run like 1-2 more aura isn't a so huge advantage. He would have defeated uber atziri without snapshoting. In my opinion it's not comparable to what snapshoting RF gives.

In this very case, if you really want to complain about something you should whine about surgeron flask /and or Low life-Shavronne. "Please nerf OP Flasks", "why shavronne is in this game"...


It is allowed. But it's not intended, and will be removed.
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Glowerss wrote:

They said awhile ago (back when they changed aura snapshotting the last time) that snapshotting was something they'd like to see fixed entirely (I believe once was quite recently), but it isn't an easy fix.

It certainly doesn't sound as though it's intended, nor does it seem it's something they like or balance around. Simply something they haven't been able to fix yet.

Why that is, neither you nor I can say. Good news if it's something they're hoping to fix after the 4 month leagues are over.


IIRC, Qarl said they do in fact balance around it, because they haven't been able to fix it. I hope they adequately buff things when and if they do get it fixed, or it's going to monkey hammer a lot of builds.
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