I Play Diablo III Because of Path of Exile's Problems

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tmaciak wrote:

I use spiders, acid cloud and piranhas coupled with dogs and gargantuan to tank and heal and still have use for crit damage. Anyway, even if you don't need crit damage per se, if you have socket you can always socket ruby so it's always better to have socket that to not have socket, though is maybe less critical then.

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Cergic wrote:

The dogs healing = OP!

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Because 140% critical dmg. When you have 50% critical chance, that much dmg makes or breaks an item. A 1900 Dps weapon with less int but with a socket does 13% more dmg.

Edit: while it is true paper dmg doesn't always mean more. When you have 50% crit, a weapon without the socket is worthless.

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symban wrote:

Ummm.. Apparently I need to use /sarcasm more..

Your logic was so horribly off with ARPG experience. "An item you are gonna use is wasted effort" has no place with ARPG.

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mazul wrote:

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Because 140% critical dmg. When you have 50% critical chance, that much dmg makes or breaks an item. A 1900 Dps weapon with less int but with a socket does 13% more dmg.

Edit: while it is true paper dmg doesn't always mean more. When you have 50% crit, a weapon without the socket is worthless.

Let's say you got 45% from ring, 45% from 2nd ring, 45% from glove, 90% from neck.
In diablo 3, the base crit damage is 150% (non-crit is 100%).

With 50% crit chance, relevant factor without 130% crit dmg from weapon (140% is extremely expensive): 1 + 0.5*(1.5 + 0.45 + 0.45 + 0.45 + 0.9) = 1 + 0.5*3.75 = 2.875

With 130% crit dmg from weapon:
1 + 0.5*(3.75 + 1.3) = 3.525

3.525/2.875 = 22.61% more dmg
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This is precisely what I am talking about: it is easy to get good, far harder to get perfect.

22.61% more dmg is not the whole world, specially since it usually means that you got a 500+ vit instead of crit dmg, which is usually around 10%ish more life.

In PoE, the difference between "what I find on my own rather easily through drops/crafting" compared to "almost perfect" , is over 100% more dmg.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

It's a 4 primary mod item, I'm not losing anything :) 2200 dps, 749 int, 745 vitality, extra mod, and 2 secondaries.

Like I said earlier, it's just funny that if you get fucked by RNG, it only gets WORSE in D3.

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Cergic wrote:

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tmaciak wrote:

I use spiders, acid cloud and piranhas coupled with dogs and gargantuan to tank and heal and still have use for crit damage. Anyway, even if you don't need crit damage per se, if you have socket you can always socket ruby so it's always better to have socket that to not have socket, though is maybe less critical then.

Maybe. But i still find it stingy and a fair trade, not something OP, that you have to give up 7-900+ in vitality/intelligence for 1 socket on the weapon. My current one gives me 800 int 800 vit, and i i have to trade 1 of those away for a socket. Not worth it IMO

WE're doing a somewhat similar build! I like it. The dogs healing = OP!

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tinko92 wrote:

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SL4Y3R wrote:

It's a 4 primary mod item, I'm not losing anything :) 2200 dps, 749 int, 745 vitality, extra mod, and 2 secondaries.

Like I said earlier, it's just funny that if you get fucked by RNG, it only gets WORSE in D3.

Like a broken record...

I'm again reminding you about socket/link/chrome system, which is incredibly worse than socketing in D3.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

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Cergic wrote:

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tmaciak wrote:

I use spiders, acid cloud and piranhas coupled with dogs and gargantuan to tank and heal and still have use for crit damage. Anyway, even if you don't need crit damage per se, if you have socket you can always socket ruby so it's always better to have socket that to not have socket, though is maybe less critical then.

Maybe. But i still find it stingy and a fair trade, not something OP, that you have to give up 7-900+ in vitality/intelligence for 1 socket on the weapon. My current one gives me 800 int 800 vit, and i i have to trade 1 of those away for a socket. Not worth it IMO

WE're doing a somewhat similar build! I like it. The dogs healing = OP!

Interesting, because I'm pretty sure max stat rolls on legendaries is 750. Unless you got a set bonus