I Play Diablo III Because of Path of Exile's Problems

for what its worth, even not being able to socket an item will still allow you to play ur build in d3, while most builds in PoE won't function without a 5 link.
Well yeah, Slayer is a bit of a hypocrite here. Bashing the D3's system and yet the PoE's is somehow better, judging by his attitude towards this.
His argument "you find a weapon but if it doesn't have a socket it's useless" (not a quote) is what makes him a bit of hypocrite.
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nightblade157 wrote:
for what its worth, even not being able to socket an item will still allow you to play ur build in d3, while most builds in PoE won't function without a 5 link.


You can run most skills on a 4L and still be okay in end game. The skills will be weaker but they'll function.
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tinko92 wrote:
Well yeah, Slayer is a bit of a hypocrite here. Bashing the D3's system and yet the PoE's is somehow better, judging by his attitude towards this.
His argument "you find a weapon but if it doesn't have a socket it's useless" (not a quote) is what makes him a bit of hypocrite.


I'm not saying any is better. They both have their pitfalls, but the fact that in one you're punished more by RNG shitting on you is pretty messed up.

And 750 is max for stat rolls.
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SL4Y3R wrote:

I'm not saying any is better. They both have their pitfalls, but the fact that in one you're punished more by RNG shitting on you is pretty messed up.


The attempt #1 in PoE is more expensive than attempt #10 in D3.
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tinko92 wrote:
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SL4Y3R wrote:

I'm not saying any is better. They both have their pitfalls, but the fact that in one you're punished more by RNG shitting on you is pretty messed up.


The attempt #1 in PoE is more expensive than attempt #10 in D3.


Also considering there are no "tiers" in the rolls that you can get it is much easier to get the desired stat.
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SL4Y3R wrote:
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Cergic wrote:
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tmaciak wrote:
I use spiders, acid cloud and piranhas coupled with dogs and gargantuan to tank and heal and still have use for crit damage. Anyway, even if you don't need crit damage per se, if you have socket you can always socket ruby so it's always better to have socket that to not have socket, though is maybe less critical then.


Maybe. But i still find it stingy and a fair trade, not something OP, that you have to give up 7-900+ in vitality/intelligence for 1 socket on the weapon. My current one gives me 800 int 800 vit, and i i have to trade 1 of those away for a socket. Not worth it IMO

WE're doing a somewhat similar build! I like it. The dogs healing = OP!


Interesting, because I'm pretty sure max stat rolls on legendaries is 750. Unless you got a set bonus

Nop. Got a staff in my stash that gives 928 vit, for example.
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SL4Y3R wrote:
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mazul wrote:
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SL4Y3R wrote:
Because 140% critical dmg. When you have 50% critical chance, that much dmg makes or breaks an item. A 1900 Dps weapon with less int but with a socket does 13% more dmg.

Edit: while it is true paper dmg doesn't always mean more. When you have 50% crit, a weapon without the socket is worthless.


Let's say you got 45% from ring, 45% from 2nd ring, 45% from glove, 90% from neck.
In diablo 3, the base crit damage is 150% (non-crit is 100%).

With 50% crit chance, relevant factor without 130% crit dmg from weapon (140% is extremely expensive): 1 + 0.5*(1.5 + 0.45 + 0.45 + 0.45 + 0.9) = 1 + 0.5*3.75 = 2.875

With 130% crit dmg from weapon:
1 + 0.5*(3.75 + 1.3) = 3.525

3.525/2.875 = 22.61% more dmg
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This is precisely what I am talking about: it is easy to get good, far harder to get perfect.

22.61% more dmg is not the whole world, specially since it usually means that you got a 500+ vit instead of crit dmg, which is usually around 10%ish more life.

In PoE, the difference between "what I find on my own rather easily through drops/crafting" compared to "almost perfect" , is over 100% more dmg.




It's a 4 primary mod item, I'm not losing anything :) 2200 dps, 749 int, 745 vitality, extra mod, and 2 secondaries.

Like I said earlier, it's just funny that if you get fucked by RNG, it only gets WORSE in D3.


Ah then your socket slot is competing against the 8% dmg mod. Which means 22.61% more dmg vs 8% more dmg.
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nightblade157 wrote:
for what its worth, even not being able to socket an item will still allow you to play ur build in d3, while most builds in PoE won't function without a 5 link.


You can run most skills on a 4L and still be okay in end game. The skills will be weaker but they'll function.


But it would be a drastic decrease in either survivability or dps. (not counting skills like RF or searing bond, because they don't need more than 4l).

And since mana is pretty hard to manage, builds relying on BM gem specially need a 5l to be any good.
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tinko92 wrote:
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SL4Y3R wrote:

I'm not saying any is better. They both have their pitfalls, but the fact that in one you're punished more by RNG shitting on you is pretty messed up.


The attempt #1 in PoE is more expensive than attempt #10 in D3.


Which still has nothing to do with a static vs. Exponentially increasing cost.

And to cergic, possible since I wasn't including 2h. But I know you don't have a 1h with 800/800

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