ch'aska the rain maker

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Thotor wrote:

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crystalwitch wrote:

Now, I've only seen a snippet of Ch'aska in action but it seems like there might not be enough time between the first sight of her RoA and death to actually get out of the way.

No double curse temporal chain/enfeeble.
Iron Reflex without good armour value and no armour/evasion % passive.
Build without life leech - Searing bond is not optimal for end game.
No Freezing effect.

All you mentioned besides armor wouldnt have really helped much since all it took was one volley. If he had good block and higher armor / more charges and 6k+hp he would probably have survived.

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ancalagon3000 wrote:

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Thotor wrote:

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crystalwitch wrote:

Now, I've only seen a snippet of Ch'aska in action but it seems like there might not be enough time between the first sight of her RoA and death to actually get out of the way.

No double curse temporal chain/enfeeble.
Iron Reflex without good armour value and no armour/evasion % passive.
Build without life leech - Searing bond is not optimal for end game.
No Freezing effect.

All you mentioned besides armor wouldnt have really helped much since all it took was one volley. If he had good block and higher armor / more charges and 6k+hp he would probably have survived.

If you are fast enough then you can outheal it with insta hp potions.

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nuub wrote:

If you are fast enough then you can outheal it with insta hp potions.

hmm maybe, I doubt it.

Enfeeble is 35+% less accuracy, less dmg, less crit, less crit mut. That alone was his biggest mistake.
There used to be day when everyone used those ... Playing HC without these curses is asking to die.

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Thotor wrote:

Enfeeble is 35+% less accuracy, less dmg, less crit, less crit mut. That alone was his biggest mistake.
There used to be day when everyone used those ... Playing HC without these curses is asking to die.

its good advice to enfeeble but she can off screen you with the rain before you ever see her

while we are at it:

what is her damage type?
chaos?

It can't really be pure physical can it? even with Grace+Determination + 6 End Charges that thing ate 4k+ HP within a second. Yes it was SC, yes I died the second time to it, and on purpose, and I'm not complaining. The second time was more like "hm the rest of the fight was easy now...so WTF did hit me so fucking hard just moments ago?" "Hm.. that rain was not there before...lets see.." "OUCH".

But, what type of damage is it that i need to mitigate there?

i just died to ch'aska and i don't even know wtf happened.

just sayin'

i have to say that the design of some of these vaal zone bosses is really poorly thought out and lazy at best.

let's throw away the discussion of hardcore elitists vs softcore scrubs for a second and talk about what is and what isn't practical. my only time ever playing this boss i did on a vulnerability and increased movespeed/cast speed/AS zone (absolutely not recommended). i've actually spent every passive point so far on purely defensive stats because i'm eventually going to be going RF. i have 4k health with 12% life regen, and 70% physical mitigation with 7 endurance charges. i still do half decent damage because of a good mace. my experience with this boss was that she used her rain attack that pours over an area for about 5-6 seconds at a time. this almost one shot me. i eventually beat her after circling around her to build up endurance charges and cast immortal call, which would buy me 10 seconds of free damage on her since her attacks are purely physical. this boss would have been impossible for me not to die to if i wasn't playing in ambush. the amount of desync in this game combined with the ridiculously massive damage makes a boss like this impractical to play. 1 rain of arrows taking off 3200 health off a character with this much physical mitigation makes absolutely no sense. if you are in a hardcore league, do not do this boss on merciless. it's a terrible idea.

whoever designs bosses in this game needs to look up the definition of skill, and rethink how they make these bosses. your design of this boss and other impractically made bosses (like the endless spawning snakes in docks vaal zone) will simply cause players to skip these areas in the future. why design something that the vast majority of players don't want to play? you could halve the damage of this ROA boss and it would still be really difficult. having to set up portals over and over again, knowing youre going to die to 2 shots before you can move out of your portal again is not anyone's idea of fun. fun is having a boss that takes skill to beat, not luck.

TLDR: designing bosses this ridiculous is not in any way practical, because players will learn to skip zones like this, meaning the design goes to waste.

congratulations, GGG, you can make a boss that can 1 shot most players who encounter her for the first time. now try something that takes creativity.

Reading all the QQ about her, had a sudden strong desire to find her and beat her ass nicely.
Luck was on my side, found a corrupted area in library on the first run.
Was almost oneshot with granite pre-popped at 5.6k hp and 30k ar.
I ran away so fast my heels was kicking my own ass.


NEEEERF :0

Have you ever heard of enfeeble and kiting? Met that boss three or four times, every time it was easy kill even with triple Frenzy charges on her.