GZ FranzKafka, First level 100 on nemesis league!

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MonstaMunch wrote:

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MGTopgun wrote:

remember, you are playing a game, and as long as you are not hacking or anything, what ever you do in the game is legit. And if the game is bugged, it is not your fault.

Dude, that's the point I've spent the last several pages making >_>

You're a dog we ignore you o_o

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MonstaMunch wrote:

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MGTopgun wrote:

remember, you are playing a game, and as long as you are not hacking or anything, what ever you do in the game is legit. And if the game is bugged, it is not your fault.

Dude, that's the point I've spent the last several pages making >_>

I haven't read all the posts.

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MGTopgun wrote:

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MonstaMunch wrote:

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MGTopgun wrote:

It is not a glitch since people know it and devs do too. It would be fixed if it was a glitch. It works as intended. People find cool builds and use them, at the end they get nerfed, like dual totem RF spork and cba to post more. Enjoy OP build cuz they get nerf.

Nono, it's a glitch, you're supposed to have to die to use cast on death, and they will fix it. The issue is whether it's legit to exploit glitches until they are patched. There are some fair arguments to be made on both sides. Obviously the ideal scenario is that it gets reported and that the person who discovers it will pretend it doesn't exist and not tell anyone until it's patched. Realistically, for some people this game is a competition, and they are playing to win.

Where does it say YOU are supposed to die and not something else.

Devs said that in several threads including thread when gem was announced. It's not intended. I still believe the main issue is that it wasn't reported and instead used secretly. That's the real reason people care so much. It's obviously not something easy to fix or they would have hotfixed it as both Qarl and Mark have said they intend to correct it.

Grats! You da man.

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Gem description:
You cannot cast supported Spells directly
100% chance to cast supported Spells on Death

Where does it say YOU are supposed to die and not something else.

From trap + remote mine descriptions. Like also pointed out by Invalesco in a previous post.

Remote mine :

Creates a Remote Mine which uses this skill when detonated

Trap :

Creates a Trap which uses this skill when triggered

Please take note that not one description states that they "die" which would result in CoD applying to them.

They are triggered ore detonated. They do not "die". It is fairly obvious GGG is very literal in there use of words when it comes to passive/gem/mechanics descriptions.

Also like pointed out by other players, it was mentioned by the dev's as "not working like that" in several threads.

Go to the CoD sub-forum where there is one post by Mark_GGG specifically stating this combination will not work, dating back 14 days now. This is clear evidence the Dev's believed this to not be functioning. And any result that leads to it functioning, is an oversight.

Also, i personally dislike what happened because it was deliberately kept from the Dev's, with ill intentions. Instead of just streaming it and letting the community know.

Like i mentioned before, a streamer has a roll towards the community, since others will follow his example.

And i would wish havoc have 0 viewers after this event since he is not the kind of person anybody should be following. Or looking up to, for that mater.

Kripp(i don't follow him personally) has shown that he also looks for exploits/glitches, but when he finds them he publicly displays them, and the devs can hotfix them before any damage is done.(damage in this case is letting somebody reach 1# on the ladder because of this exploit use)

Like i mentioned before, what makes me sad, is the fact that franz could have reached lvl 100 without the use of this exploit. But decided to "support" it by teaming up with him. Both players demonstrate they would rather win by putting up the middle finger to the rest of the ladder and GGG, instead of achieving something with honor and deriving pleasure from the fact they made it the honest way and within the rules put forth by GGG/mechanics themselves.

I will repeat it again :

Traps : trigger

Mines : detonate

CoD : requires a dead to occur

Mechanics contradict what happened here and clearly show it is a glitch. Playing the "me so stupid, me don't know game mechanics, how could i know i should report" card becomes invalid when your running the top ladder and stream for the time he has. Clear ill intend was presented, and should not be applauded.

Franz, congratz on the lvl 98 melee, it is very impressive. But the actions after that sadden me. That is all.

So if cast on death is going to be made castable only on your death AND made so that it doesn't affect minions (a semi permanent spell) what would be the use aside from portal in softcore lol? There is no reason whatsoever to even have a damage modifier on the gem if it doesn't matter b/c you're already dead.

If I could summon 6 zombie's by dieing 6 times (immediately after a level for no xp loss =D) then at least it would have some sort of use, otherwise who cares if you get one spell off upon death?

IMO this will be the most useless gem in the game if it can't effect semi-permanent spells such as summons.

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Cribstaxx wrote:

So if cast on death is going to be made castable only on your death AND made so that it doesn't affect minions (a semi permanent spell) what would be the use aside from portal..

PvP. Specifically, PvP CTF.

The only remaining question is if the rest of the ladder runners are abusing the heck out of this as well now to get to 100.

http://poestatistics.com/users/havoc6/hva.html 96-97 in 15 or so hours. Absolutely shameless.

Absolutely admirable: http://youtu.be/NV-AWxqYAgc?t=24m50s :P

+Its shows they play poe with passion because they know poe!
+None of you are competing for the ladder, are you.
+I know a lot of market exploiters and none has ever shared his exploits, why don't you go shame them:(