GGG why no flask replenish between domi forms?

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HarukaTeno wrote:
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Saltychipmunk wrote:
needing to waste a portal or two

Now you're complaining that game forces you to use 1 (or two) portal scrolls?..

I'm eager to see your next thread. I really do.



well lets put this logically , since you seem to want to play the prick .

i don't use crits , so i logically don't get the infinite surgeons flasks , that crit builds seem to under appreciate.

As such my flask pool is strictly finite.

also logically i dont have tha 30k+ dps one gets from crit builds. so i don't kill quickly.


I use 2 granites and 2 topazes with a hp pot with staunching. they only last so long.

less than 8 seconds to be exact .

i can kill the first form in less thsan 8 seconds. but then again i can kill piety in less than 8 seconds too.

difference being I get to kill her.

dominus has a second stage. twice the effective hp basically. and far more dangerous abilities that need things like said topaz flasks and granites to tank.


this game is about grinding until your mind goes numb from it , and part of grinding is efficiency.

wasting 2 extra portals on a run that already eats up 4 portals in loot is not sustainable.


and when you cant sustain your portals , you have to stop farming.

and if you stop farming , you stop making money

and when you stop making money you dont progress


so yeah those 2 scrolls are a big fucking deal for us peeps who dont have a portal gem .


again i dont exactly know why you are getting so bent out of shape over this. You give me the impression that I some how wronged you on a personal level.

chill the hell out , its not like im asking for a nerf to cast on crit.
Last edited by Saltychipmunk#1430 on Dec 3, 2013, 8:39:52 PM
Do you pick up portal scrolls when you see them?

Also, if you can farm dominus and speed is of the essence for you, you can probably afford a portal gem. Just put it on your alt weapon set.

However, I agree that killing Dominus' first form should give a flask refill like merveil does, or other form-changing monsters do.
Face it, all of your suggestions are worse than this idea:
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/657756
I am curious what kind of build has an easier time with the first form of Dominus compared to the second. For myself I have to do a bit of dodging for the first, but the second I just face tank with zero flask usage.
Another solution is to get a better build that doesnt rely so heavily on flask charges.
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Saltychipmunk wrote:
Spoiler
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HarukaTeno wrote:
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Saltychipmunk wrote:
needing to waste a portal or two

Now you're complaining that game forces you to use 1 (or two) portal scrolls?..

I'm eager to see your next thread. I really do.



well lets put this logically , since you seem to want to play the prick .

i don't use crits , so i logically don't get the infinite surgeons flasks , that crit builds seem to under appreciate.

As such my flask pool is strictly finite.

also logically i dont have tha 30k+ dps one gets from crit builds. so i don't kill quickly.


I use 2 granites and 2 topazes with a hp pot with staunching. they only last so long.

less than 8 seconds to be exact .

i can kill the first form in less thsan 8 seconds. but then again i can kill piety in less than 8 seconds too.

difference being I get to kill her.

dominus has a second stage. twice the effective hp basically. and far more dangerous abilities that need things like said topaz flasks and granites to tank.


this game is about grinding until your mind goes numb from it , and part of grinding is efficiency.

wasting 2 extra portals on a run that already eats up 4 portals in loot is not sustainable.


and when you cant sustain your portals , you have to stop farming.

and if you stop farming , you stop making money

and when you stop making money you dont progress


so yeah those 2 scrolls are a big fucking deal for us peeps who dont have a portal gem .


again i dont exactly know why you are getting so bent out of shape over this. You give me the impression that I some how wronged you on a personal level.

chill the hell out , its not like im asking for a nerf to cast on crit.

Me? o_O
I'd say it's you who snapped
(always wondered, why are people so easily offended with such insignificant remarks)

You want to "put this with logic"? Agree, i like it, let's start ^_^
Spoiler
1) Game is about grinding (and "making money"). You need to do this wisely (like in any game btw).
Effective farming? Let's think...
First (main\important) thing here (PoE)- ACQUIRE Portal Gem
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peeps who dont have a portal gem
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Sorry, your own problem.

First thing i did in Domination (at reasonable level, somewhere around act2 Cruel) - grind alts->trade to chaos-> grab Portal gem.
Now i can do everything else effectively.

Second, checking your date of start, character pool and donations - you want to say that you can't afford 1 portal gem? You're doing something wrong. (and it's not about money, don't switch discussion to that; it's about adult people capable of making reasonable decisions\game (build) planning\etc; think about it)

Spoiler
2) I'm playing "for time killing" and for simple interest
People like you tend to treat games as something more (or should i say "something important")
People make "grind builds", playing maps, trade. They do this with high efficiency

You can't correlate "cost-benefit" from Dominus farm (i assume Merciless Dominus?).
Again. You're doing something wrong. And it has absolutely nothing to do with "no flask replenish between forms"

Spoiler
I play "casually", without 130IIQ\370IIR and such; with many characters (very different builds) who request a lot of gear (different and\or expensive gear).

However, all my characters equipped as well as possible (hours and hours of Fellshrine @_@, Docks =_= and Catacombs)
Recent achievement (Cast on Crit build btw)

Crafted by myself, with a lot of orbs wasted.

I don't have illusions that (all or even one) my characters will equip Soul Taker\Shavronne\Kaom\etc
Yes, maybe those will drop; or maybe i'll have a lot of patience to grind equivalent of 600+EX

But i can still find joy in this game despite the way of how i play (and how inefficient, according to "hardcore farmers" :D)

So why can't you?


P.S. no offence taken and none was planned
Good luck \o_o
Remember, suffering is convenient.
That is why many people prefer it.
Happiness requires effort.
I can't believe you expect people to take you seriously when you are complaining about a portal scroll.

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wasting 2 extra portals on a run that already eats up 4 portals in loot is not sustainable.


What?


Also, I wasn't aware the game was about grinding efficiently. It seems like you set that goal for yourself, and then you decided to place handicaps all along the way(farm a boss that you can't cleanly kill, don't use a portal gem, etc).

The more I read threads here, the more it seems like people suffer from serious subconscious masochism, and they complain about the pain as they whip themselves.

Just stop.
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BGSacho wrote:
I can't believe you expect people to take you seriously when you are complaining about a portal scroll.

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wasting 2 extra portals on a run that already eats up 4 portals in loot is not sustainable.


What?


Also, I wasn't aware the game was about grinding efficiently. It seems like you set that goal for yourself, and then you decided to place handicaps all along the way(farm a boss that you can't cleanly kill, don't use a portal gem, etc).

The more I read threads here, the more it seems like people suffer from serious subconscious masochism, and they complain about the pain as they whip themselves.

Just stop.



really? why are people so willing to straw man me.
i can kill dominus, I just need pots to do it , forgive me if i cant completely face roll him by exploiting obvious game balance issues that ggg refuses to address.



I can kill domi , i can kill him rather easily , i just have to use pots, try and find an average joe who farms him who doesn't use topazes .

merviel replenishes between forms , why not domi?


and why are people so against something like this?
you tell me that i have no business farming domi , you say i should just chill out and farm other things.


that is your own prerogative. not mine. I like the challenging fight domi presents , needing to pop flasks to avoid insta death , kiting explosive minions , stacking resists to nullify his most dangerous stuff.


he is fun

if i were a crit build id just have surgeons flasks and be done with it.


Last edited by Saltychipmunk#1430 on Dec 4, 2013, 9:47:57 AM
Theres this little thing called Warlords Mark.
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Saltychipmunk wrote:
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BGSacho wrote:
I can't believe you expect people to take you seriously when you are complaining about a portal scroll.

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wasting 2 extra portals on a run that already eats up 4 portals in loot is not sustainable.


What?


Also, I wasn't aware the game was about grinding efficiently. It seems like you set that goal for yourself, and then you decided to place handicaps all along the way(farm a boss that you can't cleanly kill, don't use a portal gem, etc).

The more I read threads here, the more it seems like people suffer from serious subconscious masochism, and they complain about the pain as they whip themselves.

Just stop.



really? why are people so willing to straw man me.
i can kill dominus, I just need pots to do it , forgive me if i cant completely face roll him by exploiting obvious game balance issues that ggg refuses to address.



Its part of the game, not a balance issue. Its literally ONE OF THEIR LOADING TOOLTIPS to use a portal in boss fights.

And you are seriously complaining about using a portal scroll to refill flask charges, of which you are also complaining about? Do you not pick them up or something? Oh wait, you said that's "not sustainable" and that you could no longer farm if you used an extra scroll. Wow... um... yeah I can't even respond to that. My mind is blown. How do you not have extra portal scrolls? They are about as abundant as air, and as worthless as it too. How ON EARTH do you have so many characters yet lack the ability to sustain portal scrolls. You can't be picking them up... you just can't be...
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Nituvious wrote:
Theres this little thing called Warlords Mark.


I use it

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