GGG why no flask replenish between domi forms?

yes i can pic up an inventory of blues which translates to exactly 1.25 portal scrolls per inventory , a net gain of .25 portal scrolls ... or put better a colossal waste of time.

look im no longer debating my farming method with people who clearly haven't taken time to fully grasp what kind of efficiency im talking about. or lack a good grasp of accepted conventional farming methods in this game


this thread is not about me , its about dominus, refer to my previous post for the topic , discuss it or leave

Dominus is not Merveil, does that answer the question as to why there is no flask replenishment between phases?

Maybe it is that the Dominus fight is intended to be one of the most difficult fights in the game, requiring a modicum of problem-solving and intelligent play that is not required through a lot of other content (dependent on build/gear/skills/etc).

Maybe it is your personal playstyle that spams flasks during first form in order to gain an 8 second beat-down to second form transition rather than, perhaps, drawing out the first form fight to 16 seconds to allow you to enter the transition with full flasks.

While I, as a player without financial resources to support the game with more than about $40 investment, very much appreciate the amount you have invested to support the game, I cannot help but read most of your posts as having a baseline of the expectation that you, as a player, are a special snowflake.

You state that this thread is not about you, and then pose arguments/issues that are, specifically, about you and the individual choices you have made in the way you play the game.

Your choices, and the consequences thereof, are not GGG's responsibility.

Stop asking GGG to customize the game to fit your individual playstyle and preferences, regardless of the amount of support you have provided or will continue to provide, it makes you look like a whiny, self-entitled, spoiled brat.

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Sinnesteuer wrote:

Dominus is not Merveil, does that answer the question as to why there is no flask replenishment between phases?

Maybe it is that the Dominus fight is intended to be one of the most difficult fights in the game, requiring a modicum of problem-solving and intelligent play that is not required through a lot of other content (dependent on build/gear/skills/etc).

let me ask you something. what exactly is challenging or skill full about having to waste time or resource getting your flasks recharged between forms?


is there a super difficult skillful way to fill them up?

no , there isnt , dont make things out to be what they are not.

the no flask between forms , doesn't make anything harder , there is no extra skill there , there is no extra challenge.

all it is , is inconvenient , its flow breaking , its anti climatic. it is inconsistent with the previously established game mechanics .

that last part (just to be clear I am talking about it being inconsistent with other game mechanics)

is something GGG has been doing alot of. They seem to be setting all these rules that uniformly apply to everything and then at a later date add something in that is the one exception to the rule.

they did that with curses too ...


Im not acting entitled , I am merely pointing out and inconsistency and explaining the inconvenience it causes . nothing more nothing less .

if you dont agree with me , that is fine say so , say why and then move along.

you dont need to make this a mud slinging match , slandering my character , calling me a brat.





again you are addressing the context , and not the issue.

Note, I never called you anything, I made the statement that the way in which you present your arguments paints a picture for the reader and I detailed that picture. The only evidence I have of your personal character is your posting history.

You fail to address my statement that IT IS YOUR CHOICE TO PLAY IN SUCH A MANNER THAT YOU ENTER THE TRANSITION WITH NO FLASK CHARGES. Instead, you troll harder that YOU find it lacking in flow, YOU find it inconvenient, even though many have pointed out ways to address your concern. At every piece of advice you seem to stick your fingers in your ears and shout "LALALALA" because the feedback you are getting does not mesh with what YOU want.

But, in no way do you come off as self-entitled, not at all....

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Sinnesteuer wrote:

Note, I never called you anything, I made the statement that the way in which you present your arguments paints a picture for the reader and I detailed that picture. The only evidence I have of your personal character is your posting history.

You fail to address my statement that IT IS YOUR CHOICE TO PLAY IN SUCH A MANNER THAT YOU ENTER THE TRANSITION WITH NO FLASK CHARGES. Instead, you troll harder that YOU find it lacking in flow, YOU find it inconvenient, even though many have pointed out ways to address your concern. At every piece of advice you seem to stick your fingers in your ears and shout "LALALALA" because the feedback you are getting does not mesh with what YOU want.

But, in no way do you come off as self-entitled, not at all....

yes all those ways waste time , and thus arent ways at all.
And Im ignoring the advice because advice was never the purpose of this thread .

if it was then I would have just asked on of my guildies for a portal gem and be done with it .

You are still missing the point , so ill reiterate I don't need nor want advice.


to put a better way , I want peoples input on the issue its self , not the many ways , both efficient or inefficient around it.

I have no interest in input that simply dances around the issue by putting a bandaid on it
stop giving me ways people use to get around it , discuss IT.

I can get a portal gem
I can go crit
I can amass 500 portal scrolls

I can do all of it. I was merely using my experiences as a reference point. Do you really think I would be ignorant to many obvious solutions to this? Do you really think that I am that stupid?

Its a discussion , not a change it now rant. Not once did i say i wanted changed , i only said it inconvenienced me

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Sinnesteuer wrote:

Dominus is not Merveil, does that answer the question as to why there is no flask replenishment between phases?

The argument would be that there´s inconsistence on mechanics regarding boss fights that utilize phases. I find this is a fair argument and the only one that counts in this whole context in my opinion.

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Spysong192 wrote:

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Sinnesteuer wrote:

Dominus is not Merveil, does that answer the question as to why there is no flask replenishment between phases?

The argument would be that there´s inconsistence on mechanics regarding boss fights that utilize phases. I find this is a fair argument and the only one that counts in this whole context in my opinion.

Thank you, that is what i want discussed . forget portal scrolls forget the various bandaid methods around it . discuss that exact line

You can't forget portal scrolls and 'bandaid mechanics'. People are going to farm dominus. Maybe GGG thinks slowing them down or inconveniencing them if they rely to heavily on flasks is a good balance decision, and not a 'bandaid' at all.

I understand you don't want people to discuss your build or farming strategy, so I won't (hint: maybe you shouldn't either!). I also agree that dominus should recharge flasks in between forms. It would add to the overall feel of the fight, and make you feel like you've accomplished something at least when you defeat his much harder first form.

However, I think you have already dismissed arguments to the contrary because they happen to be talking about portal scrolls, or because they are couched in ad-hominem attacks or other off-topic drivel. Saying that dominus shouldn't refill flasks to make the fight harder (or to force a portal reset) for builds that are too flask-dependent, is an on-topic argument, and is not just a comment on your particular playstyle.

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Saltychipmunk wrote:

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Spysong192 wrote:

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Sinnesteuer wrote:

Dominus is not Merveil, does that answer the question as to why there is no flask replenishment between phases?

The argument would be that there´s inconsistence on mechanics regarding boss fights that utilize phases. I find this is a fair argument and the only one that counts in this whole context in my opinion.

Thank you, that is what i want discussed . forget portal scrolls forget the various bandaid methods around it . discuss that exact line

If you don't want to have these things discussed maybe you shouldn't bring them up? You poisoned your own topic bro...

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dudiobugtron wrote:

You can't forget portal scrolls and 'bandaid mechanics'. People are going to farm dominus. Maybe GGG thinks slowing them down or inconveniencing them if they rely to heavily on flasks is a good balance decision, and not a 'bandaid' at all.

I understand you don't want people to discuss your build or farming strategy, so I won't (hint: maybe you shouldn't either!). I also agree that dominus should recharge flasks in between forms. It would add to the overall feel of the fight, and make you feel like you've accomplished something at least when you defeat his much harder first form.

However, I think you have already dismissed arguments to the contrary because they happen to be talking about portal scrolls, or because they are couched in ad-hominem attacks or other off-topic drivel. Saying that dominus shouldn't refill flasks to make the fight harder (or to force a portal reset) for builds that are too flask-dependent, is an on-topic argument, and is not just a comment on your particular playstyle.

well now , there is a post i can respect.

So lets ask this question then, what is an acceptable expenditure of flasks for a boss?

we can all agree dominus is by design supposed to be the beefiest and most durable boss in the game. is it really that unreasonable to expect to go through 4 flask charges on a single form ?

4 flask charges us 2 topaz flasks. not even including granite.

is 20 seconds to kill really = to sorry brah but you cant farm domi?

is it fair to say that a build that does good dps but not good enough dps to kill in 7 seconds should have to suffer so much ?

when high dps builds can just stroll through the content?

what should be the cutt off?



"If you don't want to have these things discussed maybe you shouldn't bring them up? You poisoned your own topic bro..."

i already admitted to that fact.