Kaoms + Shavronnes legacy - pvp influence

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Play low lvl pvp. Much much more fun.

Till you meet a guy with legacy Facebreakers?

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Nephalim wrote:

You dont know the magnitude of the nerf on shavs or how much the added fire damage is.

Who cares, another whiner.

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Dan1986 wrote:

I don't pvp in the new leagues because I don't expect pvp to be very much alive there. I might definitely be wrong on that one because of the events GGG has planned, but for example in d2 most of the pvp was always in softcore, nonladder. The ladder guys were always working on their levels, so not much else going on there..

Standard and anarchy had the exact same amount of players according to their statistics...

So you'd likely be wrong at least for this game. At least on the new league you'll be on "equal footing"

I don't troll on these forums. I usually support the decisions the Devs make. The OP is kinda spot on in my world. Pvp usually takes off after people have become bored with playing through the game. Don't get me wrong, plenty of people will pvp before that point. I on the other hand prob wont(at least focus on it). I may not be in the majority of players(in regards to when they will focus on pvp) or even a large enough body of players to matter....but it sucks for me.

Why does it suck, well because now I have to remake a char every 4 months to have a fair(fair to me)pvp experience. I would eventually like to stop playing the ladders, as they take a lot of time to reach proper stop lvling points(once again for me), and just roll out my old toons for a little pvp. There are other games(gasp), work(gasp), and life in general(double gasp) that all fight for time in our day. I just don't see me having the time to always lvl and regear my pvp chars. Its really an "Oh well" thing. I just like this game so much and seeing mine and its long term goals start to separate is a crapy thing.

Anyways.....I'm still gonna play for the short term. There is definitely a soild fix for this. As mention before GGG just has to put in a "legacy Item" restriction on all Pvp environments.

As a side note, I've played since mid 2011 and never found any of these "Chase" items. Im a bit worried that I never will find one, in time, and as the Balance Changes come and go missing out on another Op item that moves to legacy is a real concern. Cause its an ARPG and Items are what an ARPG is about.

ok.

so you've tried pvp with the new kaoms/shavs vs the old ones and you've concluded its gamebreaking enough to quit over, am i right?

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Knightmare101 wrote:

All these ignorant people that dont have one just want to whine and complain! If you want everyhting handed to you, go play D3 or some other shitty game! This isnt for the casuals and little kiddies. Go play LoL or somethin! THis game obviously isnt for your whining ass!

HAHAHAHA. Do you even realize how distorted and stupid your comment is? Not the people are ignorant, YOU are, because you don't care about others at all. You are totally missing the big view, but heh no problem bud, this requires some IQ to start with.

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IVIetal wrote:

Who cares, another whiner.

Who cares, another random.

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Subversus wrote:

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Nephalim wrote:

You dont know the magnitude of the nerf on shavs or how much the added fire damage is.

Fair argument. I really don't know them, but considering life is much harder to obtain lategame than raw dmg (via high crit multi you can get 80k++ dps) I highly doubt the fire dmg will be good enough. Moreover it is fire dmg. What if my char is cold dmg based? What if my char is light dmg based? What if I just don't like fire dmg because it is only particularly useful for certain builds?

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Shodokan123 wrote:

Standard and anarchy had the exact same amount of players according to their statistics...
So you'd likely be wrong at least for this game. At least on the new league you'll be on "equal footing"

Sounds good but after 4 months, my chars end up in nonladder anyway. And then I have to make new ones if I want to compete. But let me tell you, I am too lazy to do that every single time, like probably most of you are either :)

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JunKx wrote:

ok.

so you've tried pvp with the new kaoms/shavs vs the old ones and you've concluded its gamebreaking enough to quit over, am i right?

See above. But if I do something, I like to do it right. That's my attitude. I don't like to start with 2nd best gear in the best case only to begin with. Not even the chance to acquire the same stuff as others? That simply sucks. And yes you can trade, but w/o cheats/RMT you will never be even close to acquire that legacy Kaoms.

I still think they should have done one more complete wipe before release of 1.0.0, started with a clean slate to minimize the problems they have.

Items are meant to be traded not kept and used forever.

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The reason why they feel so amazing to loot and collect is because they have value to other players.

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Grughal wrote:

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Play low lvl pvp. Much much more fun.

Till you meet a guy with legacy Facebreakers?

Lol if you think FB is a big deal in low lvl pvp you haven't seen whirling blade/trap users. Facebreaker, hah!