So after playing diablo 3, despite its many flaws, I think its definitly the better game

Wow a supporter talking about d3. This can't be good! He must be some sort of troll after all d3 is an evil game made be the devil! How could anyone like it. Maybe he rage quit and wants to make an angry post. Well you can read and decide for yourself, but I'd really appreciate if you read my entire post before posting (inb4 tldr).

First let me say I love PoE and do not regret buying a supporter package.
It has a great atmosphere and story, easily the best of any arpg, while diablo 3 probably has the worst atmosphere. PoE was a great attempt at an arpg with a lot of interesting mechanics and building that unfortunately is largely a gimmick. I really hope you guys at GGG can fix some of your problems because you really have a lot of potential with this game. It could be better than d3 but right now its not. I'd rank poe as the 2nd best diablo-clone ever made.

Now onto the part everyone is going to be flaming me about, why diablo 3 is a better game than PoE. This isn't about me being angry at GGG and wanting to hurt their feelings. I'd rather you interpreter this as criticism so you can understand how to improve the game.

If you havn't played d3 let me tell, the combat is a hell of a lot more complicated than PoE. A level 10 character in d3 is going to be more complex than 90% of what you can make in a PoE.

Path of exile is about spamming 1-2 moves over and over again. Maybe occasionally refreshing a buff or summoning something. The best strategy in the game is to pick 1 move slap as many damaging increasing supports on it as possible spam it over and over and occasionally cast a curse. Diablo 3 every character will have 7 moves to use all that behave very differently, this isnt even countering the 5 moves your companion will have.

My level 15 barbarian in diablo does an aoe puncture on a group of weak enemies, leap slams onto a a big enemy, uses a stunning shockwave on it. Than the enemy explodes into a bunch of tiny worms which I take care of with a cleave. Thats a lot more fucking complicated than my level 70 marauder who did nothing but leap slam for the entire game.

Chris you got a great character building system but its fucking broken. Make something where I can use puncture, cleave, shockwave, and leap slam all on the same character without it sucking than you got yourself a diablo killer.

Another importaint thing. The lag. There is no lag in diablo 3, maybe a little but certainly less than PoE. I've lost way more than my fair share of characters to desync. I think at one point Chris had a post where he expressed the importance of smoothness in action games. He's right. This is one of the reasons d3 is better than PoE. I really don't care how you do it but if you want to compete with d3 you need to be able to match their smoothness. Most players are going to leave this game and never come-back the moment their first HC dies from desync. I really tried to give your game a chance but after 5 (yes five) deaths from desync in a row I had enough.

Now onto character building. First let me say PoE's character building is a lot more difficult to understand than d3's. You feel pretty smart once you learn how it all works, d3 on the other hand could be understood by a 6 year old. I used to LOVE POe's stats, gear, and level ups. But the more I played poe, the higher level content I got to, the more builds I tried, the more I realized that had a lot of gimmicks. Once you get through the huge mess of the stat system and see the big picture you realize PoE isn't very complex. Despite its simple appearences d3 has a richer experience.

Level ups: Theres a few areas in the {pE tree that give the best amount of stats for your points, all characters will visist these if possible. Its less about choices than it is puzzle. Level ups in PoE stink. You only get passive points, sometimes not even good ones (+10 strength). Diablo 3 every single fucking level up you get gives you something that totally changes how you play. One level you might gain the option to make your hook shot have multiple projectiles. Another you might be able to give an ability a stun chance, another you might unlock an all new ability all-togeather. In Poe you only get a cool ability from keystones in d3 you get them every fucking level!

Orbs: It was a great idea, but just like your stat system the more I played PoE the less I liked your crafing system. The game punishes you for crafting, its much cheaper to just sell your orbs for gear. D3 has a standard gold currency with an auction house and it ends up being the exact same shit as PoE. In PoE you farm orbs and sell them to players to buy gear. In PoE you farm gold and buy gear from the AH, theres also a crafing system but its better to sell crafting mats. Sure you can play self found only (but you can also do that in d3) but the bottem line is your currency system needs some major changes. I guess once you reach the top 1% of the economy PoE's crafting system you can actually exalt things, well maybe not.



Now as for building your gear. I'm not gonna lie theres 3 stats in diablo 3. Weapon DPS, Vitality, and everything else. Only 2 of those stats are actually worth having. You dont find/craft good gear EVER you just buy it on the AH. Now Poe's stat sytem. I fucking loved it when I played, thought it was the greatest thing ever but just like I saw that the Tree was a sad gimmick so is the gear. You quickly learn that if you want to survive in HC you need to stop caring about every other stat and get resists and health. Theres a whole lot of ways to scale your dps but eventually you figure out what the best method for each build is and you realize there was never any choice in how to scale dps it was just a number crunch. Once I had created several high level characters I felt like there were 3 stats in poe dps, health, and resist hardly any more complex than d3. Yeah theres some cool uniques that sometimes let you do something other than be a tank but youve still got the problem that if your chest armor isnt rolled with high ES or Life its not worth wearing.


Sameone is probably going to mention that all classes in d3 play the same. D3 actually has a lot of builds for each class, but at high level a few of them are just way better than others.
This is a valid problem but it seems to be true for all ARPGS. Duel totem builds are going to die a hell of a lot less than say a viper-strike build.

Theres going to be some players that obsessed with creating a 'unique character' (theres no such thing) and they are going to stick with PoE over d3 for this reason. I think for other players d3 is a much better game. The combat is easily the best I've ever experienced in a diablo clone.

I really hope GGG can get their shit together and fix their problems you got a lot of potential with this game but most of it is executed terribly. I fucking LOVE GGG you have great policies and really put effort into your stuff. I've personally talked with Chris several times and he honestly gives a fuck about you guys and really has a passion for this game. However as much as I love GGG and hate bizzard I'm going to be playing d3 because its a better game.

Well that was a long post.

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Damn, I saw this and was hoping it would die with 0 replies.

tl;dr

D3 is almost off topic now, no one cares about that game here

This thread on the Median XL forums may interest you

FYI while its a crazy troll thread, BrotherLaz (who designed many of the GGG uniques) discusses POE in it. Its worth a read even if itll might give you cancer.

http://www.medianxl.com/t2916-path-of-exile-is-an-insult-to-diablo-2-s-memory

No Brain This Guy!!!

Diablo 3 has a better graphical engine,and better combat,but that's it.

PoE has better mechanics,itemization,builds,replayability,competitive PvE,versatility,constant content updates,ladder resets,no faceroll builds,dev interaction with the playerbase,and the list goes on.

While i agree with you about the people mindlessly hatting on D3 (the game has some strong points),saying that it's better than PoE is ridiculous,the amount of categories where PoE is superior is outstandingly higher