Is Addiction a Positive or Negative Human Trait
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@skyscore
As someone studying psychology, you sound like an edgy teenager trying to sound smart. You can't even use proper grammar or spelling. Try actually knowing a bit about psychology and how society is constructed before trying to argue against it. And mate, if you REALLY think that addiction aren't real, you try coming off heroin after heavy use. You'll find that you'll go into a coma. Come back to me when you lose family members to drugs. "Minions of your minions are your minion's minions, not your minions." - Mark
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" But you didn't lose anyone to 'drugs', you lost someone to heroin. You cite a specific example but then use generalist terminology. If someone ate a nut who had a nut allergy you would not describe it as 'losing a family member to food'. This is where the main 'problem of understanding' takes place. |
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" Arguing semantics. Dying to a nut allergy is technically dying to food. People simply don't use the words that way. What makes you think I haven't lost more than one close person to a different drug? "Minions of your minions are your minion's minions, not your minions." - Mark Last edited by ciknay#1000 on Oct 16, 2013, 8:22:43 PM
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" Sometimes semantics are semantics, sometimes semantics are spatula. (that's a brainiac joke btw, spatula means nothing, hence why semantics are sometimes important if someone really does use bad terminology) You are right, people don't use words in that way. So why do you use words in that way when you refer to 'drugs' in the context you did. You went to great lengths to tell us all about the dangers of 'heroin' and then claimed 'drugs' are bad. If you cannot understand why that is a bad use of words, then you effectively prove SkyCore's point. You are using a specific to demonise a wider general. I would be delighted to know about everyone you have lost and why you've lost them, that's the point of a discussion. I've lost an auntie to cancer. She was about 40 years old. She did smoke. But so did her husband who recently died aged 70 odd. Had the auntie not smoked would she have not got cancer? Who's to say, but we make scientific guesstimates. We inform people that there's a 'good chance' that smoking will help kill you quicker. Then people can make a free choice about a product that has no other major effect other than the cost of purchase and addictive properties. In the news recently was a guy who died by overdosing on caffeine pills. He had no idea this might happen, because caffeine isn't a 'drug' - as you use the phrase. How does segregating a few random substances into a 'drugs' bracket help anything? Surely doing such a thing is the very essence of 'confusing' the situation? |
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The sooner you realize that humans are useless and friends are unnecessary, the sooner you can get over human stupidity such as people killing themselves with drugs.
If someone I knew died from recreational drug use I'd literally lol. I actually did when an obese girl I knew from school died after her first night out at uni after drinking too much, getting back to her room, and apparently 'collapsing into a position where she couldn't breathe'. The first thing that came to my mind is 'She deserved it for being so careless with drinking'. Everyday people drink / do drugs to toxic levels and no one else around them gives the slightest fuck, then when someone dies 'oh noeees, its so bad they died, drugs are just evil and bad'. No actually, its not the drugs fault that person died, its their own fault for taking whatever they did. As for food allergies and anything similar, that's simply Darwinian genetics and natural selection at work. If a person has a potentially fatal genetic mutation, then that's just natures population control at work. 7 billion people on this planet and rising, medicine and curing people of such things should be banned. Oh and then the 'But what if it happened to you ZOMG' ... I no longer go to doctors. Even if I got aggressive cancer, Id just leave it to run its course. I do not fear death, the strong survive, the weak die. (b) Personal abuse, foul language, inappropriate subject matter, obscene, harassing, threatening, hateful, or discriminatory or defamatory remarks of any nature ... are not permitted. - PoE TOS. Last edited by bhavv#7360 on Oct 16, 2013, 9:08:44 PM
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Lol bhavv, sounds like you are addicted to a cynical nihilist philosophy!
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Nah, just bipolar. Nihilist and Misanthrope were words I didn't even know when I gave up on giving a shit about humans.
(b) Personal abuse, foul language, inappropriate subject matter, obscene, harassing, threatening, hateful, or discriminatory or defamatory remarks of any nature ... are not permitted. - PoE TOS. Last edited by bhavv#7360 on Oct 16, 2013, 9:19:58 PM
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Jesus mate do you have no empathy at all? or do you just try and make people upset?
'tell me how the people close to you died' I mean really, what the actual fuck. I use the general term drugs because we are talking about addictions. most drugs used illicitly, as we have been talking about, are addictive. I said 'lose a family member drugs' because you've lost someone from a substance of some sort. anyone who don't autistic can get the implications from that. being nitpicky with words like that is ridiculous. And if you really want to be fucking pedantic, then caffeine is actually a drug and is addictive. "Minions of your minions are your minion's minions, not your minions." - Mark
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" I have shown immense empathy in this thread. You entered this thread with some very upsetting remarks to SkyCore and have continued to be brash and abrasive in every post. " Er... the whole point of your posts is about personal experience of individuals you have known. Turning this sharply and aggressively on the very subject of your own posts is indicative of an addict's type of mood-swing. " No, we have been quite lucid in explaining that some illicit drugs can have zero addictive qualities. To get to this point in the thread and make this statement is proof that you do not wish to 'engage' the subject. " No, not at all. You engaged in an argument with someone who said the societal implication of addiction was a system of judgmental control, to which you said this was tosh, to which you then prove it to be accurate by unfairly associating heroin with 'all illicit drugs' which, if you had been 'engaging' with the thread, you would know, is wholly inaccurate. " Yes it is, but do you see policemen outside starbucks? Do you refer to someone drinking coffee as a 'druggy'? Why not? |
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I lost my mother this year to the repercussions of long term heroin addiction. The effect it has had on the whole family is terribly sad. Her body basically broke down. From collapsed veins, hep C, cirrhosis and cancer. She died at age 61 looking older than my great grand mother who also died recently at 101 yrs.
I felt the need to stand by her no matter how much her physical state repulsed me. The urge to shelter my children away from her hideousness was overpowering but I didn't. I guess a life time of witnessing her self destruct has taken it's toll. To the point were I was quite relieved when she did pass away. I have recently been seeing a therapist and have started to take antidepressants to cope with the overwhelming sense of horror that just wont leave me. I don't do Facebook or have a mobile phone and avoid crowds of people. My social anxiety is now affecting how I choose to live my life. Believe it or not but posting in these forums from an anonymous handle is helping me to slowly gain back a bit of hope and social interaction. I mentioned that I had a bit of a drinking problem in a earlier post but it doesn't really have any negative repercussions on those around me apart from financially. I still function, have a decent job, 2 kids and one on the way, a happy wife who loves and supports me. The few friends I do have are close life time friends that have helped me through some dark times. Addiction killed my mother and I wont let it happen to me. "Withdrawing in disgust is not the same as apathy"
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