Female hero overload

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oblomir wrote:

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666tnt666 wrote:

The whole class bound to gender thing is just a ludicrously epic fail.

Judging by the amount of "I can't play a char without a penis" whining once the alternate gender microtransactions become available they'll be an epic win...

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Bunnu wrote:

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SlixSC wrote:

It doesn't really matter. If we can assume that 25% of the player base plays female characters, it makes no sense to have 43% female characters in the game. It is disproportionate and does not reflect the choices made by the players, irrespective of their gender.

Let me reiterate what I said earlier, to me personally the character's gender doesn't matter. I play most of my races as Ranger, purely based on the gameplay and only recently switched to Templar. However, if we are going to argue the statistical side of it, the facts actually matter, not our personal preferences or even just our opinion.

Even if we assume 25% of people play female characters (why even assume that in the first place?), the amount of female characters to male characters doesn't accurately represent the player's gender preference. There are people who choose gameplay over gender and vice versa. If my favorite class was duelist, I would play duelist, even though I prefer female characters. In that case, IF I could be a female duelist, I would, but I'd rather be a male duelist than a female other-class. There aren't any accurate statistics available to us that show what gender the players prefer overall, but the amount of female characters to male characters is pretty close to what studies have shown is the amount of female gamers to male gamers, so it seems pretty fair to me.

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SlixSC wrote:

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skinnay wrote:

statistics from the ladders:

http://poestatistics.com/standard/
ranger 17.85% + witch 28.21%
46.06% of top 15000 characters in standard are female

http://poestatistics.com/hardcore/
ranger 16.38% + witch 19.91%
36.29% of HC ladder is female

http://poestatistics.com/anarchy/
ranger 11.73% + witch 32.24%
43.97% of anarchy ladder is female

http://poestatistics.com/onslaught/
ranger 12.45% + witch 29.9%
42.35% of onslaught ladder is female

I wasn't aware of these numbers. In which case, I stand corrected.

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Cyten wrote:

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SlixSC wrote:

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skinnay wrote:

statistics from the ladders:

http://poestatistics.com/standard/
ranger 17.85% + witch 28.21%
46.06% of top 15000 characters in standard are female

http://poestatistics.com/hardcore/
ranger 16.38% + witch 19.91%
36.29% of HC ladder is female

http://poestatistics.com/anarchy/
ranger 11.73% + witch 32.24%
43.97% of anarchy ladder is female

http://poestatistics.com/onslaught/
ranger 12.45% + witch 29.9%
42.35% of onslaught ladder is female

I wasn't aware of these numbers. In which case, I stand corrected.

You don't stand corrected because these numbers are irrelevant since it doesn't take into account people who only play such characters because of their position in the skill tree but would actually prefer them to be male.

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SlixSC wrote:

But I do see OP's point, if there is no demand for female characters, why add another one to the game?

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SlixSC wrote:

If there are as many female as male players in PoE their hiding skills must be superb.

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SlixSC wrote:

But like I said, I really don't think it matters, but OP isn't wrong, in the sense that the game tries to cater to female players when the majority of the player base is in fact male.

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reboticon wrote:

After thinking about it (I'm at work so, clearly, this is best use of my time,) How do you KNOW Witch and Ranger are female? They could have 13 inch cocks for all we really know, and just enjoy dressing in drag. So, now you can imagine them with that 13 inch cock you so desire, and play those classes.

Win/Win?

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Delynx wrote:

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SlixSC wrote:

But I do see OP's point, if there is no demand for female characters, why add another one to the game?

You're wrong, there is a demand for female characters. I, for one, always play females when I have a possibility, and I do not like to play male chars, as I do not associate as well with them. I have an end-game witch and a duelist, but I would switch to a female duelist any time if I'm given a possibility. Unfortunately, no good strength melee females are available at the moment (maybe will change with Scion).

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SlixSC wrote:

If there are as many female as male players in PoE their hiding skills must be superb.

I'm sure, it is not so noticeable for a male player, but as a female, I'm constantly addressed on game forums/PMs/chats as "man/bro/dude", "he", when a third person speaks about me, etc.
Sometimes I correct people. But usually I just skip it, because it is mentioned in passing and if I would correct it, the conversation could shift to gender problems, instead of, let's say, how much this sword that I'm selling costs. Which means people are sure they were speaking to a male, when, in reality, they weren't.

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SlixSC wrote:

But like I said, I really don't think it matters, but OP isn't wrong, in the sense that the game tries to cater to female players when the majority of the player base is in fact male.

What you propose is a vicious circle:
More players are male => let's not cater to female players => female players are discouraged to play => even more players are males => ...