Chris promises no more product placement

I dont interpret his response as " you wont see anything Else like this ever again" just that we wont see anything more radical then cosmetics like the footprints
This is a crisis I knew had to come,
Destroying the balance I'd kept.
I said - the game logo is implemented badly. Look at dragon age and mass effect and dead space. They implement their own logos in a way fitting those worlds, that are very different from each other. Armor themes are displayed on modern tech, and backwards. This could be a chest ornament - no problem there, or a flag/banner carried by the character in PvP. It could be a spell effect. The main problem is, that razor logo does not look like a footprint. Other then that, it's just a symbol. It has nothing to do with modern technology, because I could draw it with a blunt rock on charred ground. So could do a maruder.

PS. Google elitist jerks. Go there, preach something unpopular.
Last edited by lososthefish#3348 on Sep 4, 2013, 5:11:33 AM
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reboticon wrote:
I hope he renegs on this and partners with vagisil. Some of you could use it.


lol



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adghar wrote:

I have never understood this counter-argument. In a medieval fantasy game, there are warriors who have fought bravely and gathered great amounts of power, whether arcane or physical. Grand heroes of bloody might can very much conceivably have gore footprints, or have tamed a rhoa and imbued it with enough magical might to glow with mystical barding.

No amount of magic will cause a Marauder to independently invent a computer, graphical processing unit, mouse, keyboard, and then code his own gaming peripheral software called Razer Comms, and then magically imbue his footprints with it.


So it's conceivable to imagine a warrior, that with every step of his feet, blood gushes out onto the ground (but he doesn't bleed to death). Or that a traveler can condense enough energy to make his pet glow like a star. But in this world of high fantasy, it is somehow impossible for your character to invent pc gaming hardware?

Have you tried not thinking about it so hard? I agree they're ugly, but unless you're zoomed it it's pretty hard to even tell what they are.

This is truly a TINY issue to even be talking about, in a month I bet no one will be talking about "boo hoo razer footprints"...maybe we can get back to actually talking about the game.
Last edited by TheKleen#4405 on Sep 4, 2013, 5:13:06 AM
adghar, you paid money either to Support (aka supporter packs, that gave what they described) or to get Microtransaction points.

I don't know how you get the Idea that paying for those things means that there won't be any 'advertisement'.

That aside, it is understandable that people don't want their fantasy game plastered with brand logos of different corperations. But the outrage is way out of proportion.
Have people lost all common sense and ability to express their discomfort in an appropiate scale?

This is one instance of a subtle placement where GGG specificly said that they only did it because it isn't too out of place. (And let's be honest, many people don't even recognise it as a brand logo) And people act like this is the end of the world and there will be Billboards everywhere in the game and what not.

I just don't get it. People being not happy with GGGs decision, fine. But nobody can justify this kind of outrage over something so petty.
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Also, this outrage hurt business value of GGG for future agreements. Not to mention that the pc hardware company got some bad PR out of it.
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Sneakypaw wrote:
adghar, you paid money either to Support (aka supporter packs, that gave what they described) or to get Microtransaction points.

I don't know how you get the Idea that paying for those things means that there won't be any 'advertisement'.

That aside, it is understandable that people don't want their fantasy game plastered with brand logos of different corperations. But the outrage is way out of proportion.
Have people lost all common sense and ability to express their discomfort in an appropiate scale?

This is one instance of a subtle placement where GGG specificly said that they only did it because it isn't too out of place. (And let's be honest, many people don't even recognise it as a brand logo) And people act like this is the end of the world and there will be Billboards everywhere in the game and what not.

I just don't get it. People being not happy with GGGs decision, fine. But nobody can justify this kind of outrage over something so petty.


Did you know that product placement is illegal in some countries? And for pretty obvious reasons... how is that petty? We don't want that corporate crap in our faces when we play our games to escape from this very crap.
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lososthefish wrote:
Also, this outrage hurt business value of GGG for future agreements. Not to mention that the pc hardware company got some bad PR out of it.


and why is that ?

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mostly ppl who dont pay their own bills have no family have not even the slightest idea how hard it is to bring food on the table every day dare to voice their opinion about something that is so small its not even worth mentioning

i for myself cant wait for the d3 expansion so all those bored kids go finally away
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I'll just copy-paste this here:

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johnKeys wrote:
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Chris wrote:
We picked Razer because they make good products and are run by gamers. I met their CEO in March, he's a really awesome guy and I feel their company has a similar ethic to ours. Their software works well with Path of Exile and is a great fit for the needs of our users. Their logo is surprisingly suitable for our game world and makes for a cool looking footprints effect.


with all due respect Chris, don't take your customers for fools. most of your player base is older than 20, and some - like myself - are close to 40.

you partnered with Razer because you guys needed X money, and they offered it.
cold hard business.
their CEO being "a cool guy" and their logo being "suitable for PoE" (it sure as hell isn't) have absolutely nothing to do with it.

but while my businessman side sees the obvious logic in this, my "gamer" side thinks this sets a very bad precedent.


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johnKeys wrote:
I understand the real-world rationale behind product placement, but also think players should see no such thing in their game, especially if they paid money for it.
the very least you can do GGG, is integrate an option to disable all product placements into every supporter pack sold. at least let the paying customers decide if they want to see it in their Client, or not.

and please don't give us the "Razer are cool, their CEO is a gamer, and their logo is mystic" crap. the Coca Cola logo is also "mystic" and "fits into Wraeclast's dark atmosphere" given a "fat enough" contract.
we are all grown-ups here, not 10-year-old kid gamers.



my 2 cents.
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lososthefish wrote:
Also, this outrage hurt business value of GGG for future agreements. Not to mention that the pc hardware company got some bad PR out of it.

Care to elaborate?
What are the samples your are basing this statements off?

What I see is people jumping the gun. Most people in-game,
actually enjoying the game, won't see it that much or won't care either.
Simply based off the fact that the code is not given away to every player automatically.

GGG however got Razer equipment to work with (maybe they even get prototypes to test their game with), advertisement of their game on Razer networks, which is actually pretty good and the goodwill of a high portion of players which got a footprint effect for free.

I can imagine that especially customers
which haven't yet paid anything were grateful for the free effect.
So was the notion in the first moment of the codes given away anyway.

It is pretty easy to see everything black & white.
Chris statement does not falsify anything he said before.
He basically repeated what he said in the Announcement and apologized for the uproar.
Hey, hey think about it this way: you can recognize the players you don't want to play with by just looking at if they have the footprints. No need to waste a few maps to try it out.

So they're like Ed Hardy products IRL.

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