Update 2: Grammar Error on Close Helmet vs. Close-Helmet (image and answer)
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I'm not saying that because Shakespeare wrote it that way it has to be correct.
It is not an error [and stop saying otherwise], but writing "closed helmet" is not an error either Enclosed helmet is another thing i like this game. i mean have you seen how powerful is the barbarian
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" alas, there are many words / construct in the english language that make no sense at all http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=yDFQXxWIyvQ#t=246s explains it pretty funnily. "why do they call them buildings? they should just call them built!" don't fight it bro... english sucks when it comes to logic. | |
" I don't go around calling myself Nicholas-Steel, I call my self Nicholas Steel! Just because something looks wrong doesn't mean it is wrong. Also the hyphen depends on what dictionary you use. Some mention it without a hyphen and some do. Computer specifications:
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" Names like Nicholas, Jessica, Ethan, etc. are definite names. Even though these names may have a background story to them, they are are not considered actual words because they cannot be used to form a sentence on their own. They are names. When a name is made up of multiple words (not definite names) linked with an object to form a name, then is when hyphenation may be needed, or, the two words need to be brought together as in Flowerpot. There is a difference between something looking wrong and something being wrong. I do not judge only with my eyes on how something looks. I judge with experience and thorough research. If ever there is a time I do not agree with something I researched, I weigh out the differences between sources conflicting with one another in terms of information. There then comes the time where I have think on my own in the process of separating nonsense from fact. Nicholas-Steel or Steel-Nicholas makes no sense. The name Nicholas and the word Steel, if hyphenated, does no justice for one another to suggest a deeper meaning between the two. " I have room to say otherwise because I do know what I am talking about. Meanwhile, you tell me not to say otherwise because it is not an error, but you don't explain how it is not an error. It doesn't make your argument credible. Just because something can be written two ways, does not necessarily mean it is right. This is exception to the rule for certain words like color vs. colour. Color is the way we in the U.S. spell color, and colour is the way people in Britain spell color. This is a great example of two countries wanting to be different from each another for the sake of being different. There is really no other good reason why we need two spellings of this word, among others words. On another note, someone using the 'tomato' vs. 'tamoto' argument is not a viable one in how the vegetable is pronounced and spelled. There is only one spelling and pronunciation for this word and other words commonly misspelled and mispronounced, notably due to different accents involuntarily giving unnecessary emphasis to words people in different areas hear other people say in embellished ways because that's what they grew up knowing. A powerful yet unrelated comparison I can make is if someone grows up being told killing other people is OK, does it make it right and OK? I don't think so. It's the same thing with words in the written language. You can grow up being told something is spelled or spoken a certain way, later to find it is not when researching information to prove it. More than not, here is how it goes: We first live by and follow what our parents tell us, then we move on to doing so with our friends and those we work with. There later comes a time to challenge what we've been told to seek truth on what's really right and what's really wrong, including but not limited to, how we are told to pronounce and spell things. Most people don't care to bother, but I do. I consult all sources of information, compare it, master it, then apply it. Another example would be hot dog vs. hot dawg. Just because New Yorkers pronounce it hot dawg doesn't mean the correct spelling of dog should adapt to dawg. Surely you wouldn't see any professional English teacher, be it they teach college level or first grade level, telling students things like, "Dawg is how you pronounce and spell dog." If you have, they are not much of an English teacher and need to consider going back to school again. Conclusively, there are solid right vs. solid wrong ways in language to say, write or spell things whether anyone wants to admit it or not. The only reason words have become so convoluted throughout time is mostly due to boredom. We have literally exhausted almost all ideas and things that we feel the need to change otherwise correct words into something incorrect. It has happened and is happening. There is no other greater explanation than the above stated on why words and language is changing at the pace it is changing these days. I can tell you commercials (insulting people's intelligence,) and overrated viral videos trending nonsensical things are the main culprits to this. When game developers ignore the criticism that would improve their game, the game fails. Just because a game receives a great amount of praise vs. only a small amount of criticism does not mean to call it a day and make a foolish misplaced assumption that it is perfect. (me) Last edited by HeavyMetalGear#2712 on Sep 7, 2013, 5:01:58 PM
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I agree 100% on what you say but my dictionary says that it can be spelled both ways. Also, Wikipedia (as long as it can be considered a good source), other dictionaries already posted above, etc. etc.
It is not an error, get over it. It's part of the name, check out the incongruences the other guy posted too you're making such a big deal for a small thing, lol. i like this game. i mean have you seen how powerful is the barbarian
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" You still cannot support your argument. It is not credible. Whether it is to you a big deal or not is besides the point. Until you can support "It is not an error," I cannot take in consideration anything you say or anyone else says, regardless of incorrect cited sources. Wikipedia can also be edited by anyone and is therefore by majority vote (mostly from teachers in grade schools and professors in colleges) deemed a not-so reliable source for correct information. It boils down to people not wanting to admit they are wrong or a source is wrong, despite the irrefutable yet so often ignored devastating evidence. I provided more than enough in-depth explanation to support my argument. What does yours hold? When game developers ignore the criticism that would improve their game, the game fails. Just because a game receives a great amount of praise vs. only a small amount of criticism does not mean to call it a day and make a foolish misplaced assumption that it is perfect. (me) Last edited by HeavyMetalGear#2712 on Aug 30, 2013, 1:29:18 PM
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" Logic like mine in the English language cannot compete against common people whose distorted phraseology, etc. is out of touch with what is otherwise considered correct to more experienced eyes. I never said I would win this battle. Today, anything and everything goes. While I understand that, I am someone who tries people's intelligence by challenging it. Furthermore, Gallagher was a great Comedian. I don't discredit all the man's genius. However, the role of most comedians is to be funny and rarely serious. Ah, but then when I utter the word serious (notably because of the Batman movie,) we now have this "Why so serious?" or "You mad, bro?" mindset that logic, no matter how powerful or evident, cannot compete with. People use these trendy phrases when they don't have anything better to say to disprove or prove something. This is what I am talking about. More than ever, the world is so overrun with hazardous clowns whose jokes extenuate everything that’s serious, proselytized by the belief to take life (everything) so lightly, that which is misplaced thinking for those who are lead by misplaced thinking. As for Gallagher's hilarious standpoint, what he says is partly true, but in the foremost files of time when the English language was developed by our ancestors, we went with what sounded best. I can tell you the word comb vs. coomb sounds a lot better, among other examples Gallagher put forth. He also argues, "Why should I be serious about the language if the language is not serious enough to make sense." That's the thing, it does make sense. Let's look at his statement. What sounds more ridiculous when said: Note: the line over the o’s is a Macron indicating a long vowel sound. Let me get sōme money soo we can goo tō the store. or, Let me get some money so we can go to the store. The above does make more sense (sorry Gallagher) because it flows off the tongue easier and sounds better. This is why certain words are said the way they're said. The above example communicates quicker and sounds less stupid. Trying to use a comedian who is more wrong than right as back-up for your flawed standpoint doesn't make it correct or any stronger. I can firmly say my argument vs. Gallagher's is stronger. I have now been and continue to be flamed for being smarter like Gallagher said he did when picking at someone's intelligence or what the general population believes to be correct. When game developers ignore the criticism that would improve their game, the game fails. Just because a game receives a great amount of praise vs. only a small amount of criticism does not mean to call it a day and make a foolish misplaced assumption that it is perfect. (me) Last edited by HeavyMetalGear#2712 on Aug 30, 2013, 10:16:12 PM
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1. OP is wrong
2. This is the wrong forum section for a discussion like that, pointless as it may be? Last edited by Antistes#4850 on Aug 30, 2013, 4:49:47 PM
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" in before wall of text by OP about philosophy of words just kidding Just, OP, take it easy. It is not an error, many dictionaries reports "close helmet" as the same description of the "close-helmet" so "don't get mad bro" lol ;) i like this game. i mean have you seen how powerful is the barbarian
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" I am taking it easy. I fail to see where you guys are coming from only because you're all failing to stand your ground. Correct. Both are supported, but one of the two is more correct than the other for reasons I already explained. The one usage should be omitted. The hyphenation, again, is what separates the two ways Close-Helmet is written. They both translate differently. You don't question or understand why the one way has a Hyphen and the other doesn't. I will tell you: the one way has the Hyphen because it is the correct way to write it. The other way has no Hyphen because it got lost by the people who did away with it quite possibly because of laziness without giving it any thought on why it should not be included. On some things, I do not care what the dictionary says. All the great geniuses of the world, the dictionary, religious works, science, etc. have all been and continue to be challenged, updated and proven right or wrong. These people and sources are not always right. I know it and other people who challenge things knows it. Your broken crutch is, "It's widely accepted so it's 100% right!" Just because something is widely accepted doesn't necessarily make it correct. For the most part, yes, but not in this case. To emphasize, your argument is bad as saying, "Einstein said it, therefore, it positively, absolutely has to be right! It cannot be wrong!" Going in with that mindset doesn't make a steady standpoint. When people who argue things find themselves having to rely on what seem to be reputable sources without first doing their own research, etc. it just goes to show what little they really know. Why gamble by putting your full trust into something or what people say without looking into what's being said or what the general population believes to be correct? " Then correct me. What is wrong? No one can say because there's nothing wrong in what I've said. When game developers ignore the criticism that would improve their game, the game fails. Just because a game receives a great amount of praise vs. only a small amount of criticism does not mean to call it a day and make a foolish misplaced assumption that it is perfect. (me) Last edited by HeavyMetalGear#2712 on Sep 2, 2013, 11:34:54 AM
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