Tired of farming wisdom scrolls?

I don't know about the rest of you, but farming wisdom scrolls has become very annoying for me by midgame(cruel act 2, actually, but it's the same for act one) and i can't imagine it getting better in the late game.


Elaboration:

I have also looked into other options:

I certainly don't like the Diablo 3 way either, with no id needed for magic and free id for rares. That takes away all the feeling of mystery from the items and I've found that to be very important for the overall feel of the game.

Diblo 2 had a better idea: Deckard Cain would start id-ing for you in town for free very early in the game and you could buy scrolls anyway since they were cheap and money was plenty.


My proposed solution:

Have either an item in your inventory or an interactive object in towns (like the notice board) that has a certain chance of identifying items (could work with one item at a time or all of them at once). If could only try to id something with it once. If you failed, you'd have to use a scroll.

This item could be slowly upgraded by using wisdom scrolls on it, with each scroll spent having only a certain chance of increasing the items id chance. The higher the chance your item has to id the lower the chance for wisdom scrolls to upgrade it.
(alternatively it could get a pottential upgrade each time you id something with a scroll, each time you id something with it or each time you fail to id something with it)

The item could become available to the player in several ways:


Effects on gameplay:

-In the beginning of the game things would work pretty much the same as now. The item would not be able to id much so you'd need wisdom scrolls both to id and to upgrade it.

-As the game moves on, the item gets better and better, but you don't hoard wisdom scrolls because you're using them to upgrade it.

-By midgame, it gets good enough to id the majority of your items and the drop rate of scrolls compensates for the failures. If you find yourself with a few extra scrolls, you can keep trying to upgrade the item, though the success rate for that is now lower.

-By the time you finish merciless act 3, the item would have about 80-90% chance to id, but you'd still need scrolls from time to time and you can still try to upgrade it...

-I don't think it would affect the economy all that much since scrolls would still be very useful and fairly easy to get


Possible names for this object:

I agree i cant stand running out of wisdoms.

Either this guys idea or a Wisdom Item that takes 5 squares vertical to place in your inventory to infinitely id items. (auto id everything in inventory with "Wisdom item" there)


EX. http://i.imgur.com/YHuV1nJ.png

Not the best solution, but:
buy Portal Gem (many people still asking "why do we need it?" :D)

Well. You can save ALL the portal scrolls. It's the first benefit of 1-time investment
You can do whatever you want with tp scrolls btw. Like selling them for chaos to "why do we need Portal gem?" players :D

Second, you can grab EVERYTHING and vendor it (worst idea, but somehow it gives you a lot of WisScrolls despite amounts of time wasted)
You can grab "superior" items and vendor 40% in sum (and then immediately vendor BWhetstone\AScrap). IMO, more slow and ineffective than "grab-sell all".

Last benefit of Portal - you can get 'back-up' any time just by opening portal. Even in SC it's useful.

Just be more selective about what you pickup and what you identify. You don't need to pick up everything, and you don't need to identify everything you pickup.

Tip: It's more efficient to sell blue items without identifying them (to get Transmutation Orbs which sell for 4 wisdoms) than it is to pick up white items.

Unidentified Blue = 2 Shards = 1/10 Orb
Orb = 4 Wisdom
Unidentified Blue = 4/10 of Wisdom Scroll = 2 scroll fragments (twice as much as a vendored white item)

*facepalm*

I thought this was a joke thread, and then it wasn't.

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illestmuzik wrote:

a Wisdom Item that takes 5 squares vertical to place in your inventory to infinitely id items. (auto id everything in inventory with "Wisdom item" there)

That would be the same as saying: "reduce inventory by 5 slots and remove the whole identification aspect from the game"... No thank you... For me, identification is an important part in the overall feel of the game...
I hated that they removed it in D3 and would hate it if they removed it from PoE

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HarukaTeno wrote:

Not the best solution, but:
buy Portal Gem (many people still asking "why do we need it?" :D)

Well. You can save ALL the portal scrolls. It's the first benefit of 1-time investment
You can do whatever you want with tp scrolls btw. Like selling them for chaos to "why do we need Portal gem?" players :D

Second, you can grab EVERYTHING and vendor it (worst idea, but somehow it gives you a lot of WisScrolls despite amounts of time wasted) <- this is what I said i didn't like
You can grab "superior" items and vendor 40% in sum (and then immediately vendor BWhetstone\AScrap). IMO, more slow and ineffective than "grab-sell all".

Last benefit of Portal - you can get 'back-up' any time just by opening portal. Even in SC it's useful.

a half-assed solution at best... I've already mentioned I don't think the portal scroll drop rate would complement the wisdom scroll drop rate sufficiently.

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PolarisOrbit wrote:

Just be more selective about what you pickup and what you identify. You don't need to pick up everything, and you don't need to identify everything you pickup.

Tip: It's more efficient to sell blue items without identifying them (to get Transmutation Orbs which sell for 4 wisdoms) than it is to pick up white items.

Unidentified Blue = 2 Shards = 1/10 Orb
Orb = 4 Wisdom
Unidentified Blue = 4/10 of Wisdom Scroll = 2 scroll fragments (twice as much as a vendored white item)

I suppose that would take care of the surface of the problem, but it would still boil down to having to haul items you're not interested in back to town.
Plus you get the chance to miss out on some alchemy shards... and you end up taking 2 trans shards for what is usually more than 2 alt shards, which are essentially better...

I'm not saying that there aren't any ways around it, just that they aren't convenient or fun.

Anyway... this thread is more about the suggestion than about the complaint... else I'd be simply asking for an increased drop rate or better vendor exchange rates...

I don't generally have a problem with getting enough wisdoms, myself. By the time I hit early to mid cruel, most all of my gear is at a point where identifying and using a dropped blue, regardless of it's ilevel, would be a downgrade (either in simple stat values, or by increasing one at the cost of something else I can't afford to lose), At that point I simply go the route of picking up all blues and vendoring them unidentified and sell stacks of transmutations for scrolls.

Yes, this does lead to a lot of trips back to town, but those trips take 30-60 seconds, including hitting the stash after the vendor. The result is me sitting on about 1500 wisdoms and about 100 spare portal scrolls (I never leave any scroll on the ground, even when I use a portal gem).

Granted, pure farming sessions can quickly deplete that supply, but simple progression play quickly builds it back up. Of those 1500 scrolls I have now, probably 1200 of them came from just vendoring blues on my witch on her way to level 56, where she is now.

Admittedly, though, I don't mind taking my sweet ass time in this game. This method may not sit well for someone trying to rush to endgame.

YMMV

+1 for Portal gem. Before you even know it you'll be flooding in Portal Scrolls to turn into Wisdom Scrolls.

Just get one of these:

I get so many Wisdom Scrolls I don't know what to do with them. Already sold over 2000 for chaos, and I pick up all blue items to identify them if I still have space in my inventory. But then again, I don't run much MF to carry back 6 inventories of rares per map.

After Act 1 Normal stop identifying magic items. Problem solved.