Feedback and Suggestions (Path of Exile 1) - This Game needs an Auction House - Forum

If I had the choice between no trading and an auction house I would choose no trading. “Demons run when a good man goes to war"	Posted by Sneakypaw#3052 on Jul 25, 2013, 2:38:49 AM Quote this Post
" Sneakypaw wrote: If I had the choice between no trading and an auction house I would choose no trading. This can't be +1ed enough. PoE isn't WOW, it isn't DIII, it is PoE, the lack of an AH makes the trading much more interesting. Sure it can be intimidating or overwhelming at first, but once you realize that the majority of people trading are fair and generally not assholes, it's actually a pleasant experience at times.	Posted by chongler#6892 on Jul 25, 2013, 9:45:40 AM Quote this Post
Probably already posted but in case it was not: http://poe.xyz.is/ Shop indexer (basically an AH where the user needs to be online, but it shows whether they are or are not) Last edited by piperazinedream#7408 on Jul 25, 2013, 10:08:22 AM	Posted by piperazinedream#7408 on Jul 25, 2013, 10:07:59 AM Quote this Post
lol poe indexer	Posted by ibase#1590 on Jul 25, 2013, 11:16:21 AM Quote this Post
" ibase wrote: lol poe indexer I've "bought" (bartered for ) a lot of my gear using it personally. It is a great tool to not waste time skimming through all the shops, although the trend of posting the gear you use "to look for upgrades" does mess with it ( I do the same though.. if you can't beat them join then, gets your post more views) Last edited by piperazinedream#7408 on Jul 25, 2013, 11:19:07 AM	Posted by piperazinedream#7408 on Jul 25, 2013, 11:18:42 AM Quote this Post
AH is only viable if there is a standard currency in the game like gold. The bartering/orb system in POE seriously complicates an AH. If someone bid 20 fusing orbs on an item, who is to say how many chaos orbs or gcps it takes to outbid it? If GGG just declared the only currency that could be used on the AH was Chaos, that could seriously hurt the overall economy. A better solution (and what I expect they will likely implement) would be someone puts an item up for sale and over the course of 1-3 days other uses can post offers consisting of Orbs, items or some combination of both. Then the seller can browse through those offers and choose which if any to accept. It would be a single system that allows selling, trading and bartering and would likely be able to be managed through the website/forums like GGG has stated they want to do. In Wraeclast, if someone tries to kill you... you just kill them right back.	Posted by Trapperkeeper#6979 on Jul 25, 2013, 1:43:41 PM Quote this Post
" ScrotieMcB wrote: The reason Diablo 3's economy went to shit wasn't the RMAH, and it wasn't people trading big items on the AH. It was precisely the ability to trade "mid-range gear" (actually crap, but usable crap) for convenience value, when normally people would spend a day or so farming for it. Thus, instead of farming for usable crap and trading for big-ticket items, you literally bought everything off of the AH, and never self-found anything ever. I've never played D3 so I can't comment but you're not the first person who's said that. I certainly agree that "farm for gold to buy my gear" is not an exciting game mechanic for an ARPG. What I don't understand is how that's different than POE. That's exactly my POE experience. I farm for pretty colors which I reduce down to gold at the vendor then I buy my gear in "the economy". Never once have I self-found anything past the time when actual affixes mattered. I don't trade. I don't group. My comments reflect that.	Posted by snapple99#2919 on Jul 25, 2013, 2:34:54 PM Quote this Post
People who cry about the AH in Diablo 3 are just mad because they couldn't afford any of the good gear. And before you go off on a rant about how I probably bought all of my gear from there, I BOUGHT NOTHING FROM THE AH and I have one of each class at max level with pretty damn good self found gear. Remember when I won a screenshot contest and made everyone butt-hurt? Pepperidge Farm remembers.	Posted by Wraeclastian#7390 on Jul 25, 2013, 2:45:23 PM Quote this Post
" Trapperkeeper wrote: AH is only viable if there is a standard currency in the game like gold. The bartering/orb system in POE seriously complicates an AH. If someone bid 20 fusing orbs on an item, who is to say how many chaos orbs or gcps it takes to outbid it? If GGG just declared the only currency that could be used on the AH was Chaos, that could seriously hurt the overall economy. A better solution (and what I expect they will likely implement) would be someone puts an item up for sale and over the course of 1-3 days other uses can post offers consisting of Orbs, items or some combination of both. Then the seller can browse through those offers and choose which if any to accept. It would be a single system that allows selling, trading and bartering and would likely be able to be managed through the website/forums like GGG has stated they want to do. Simply list your item. Under currency, you state you are willing to take 1 ex, or 12 GCP or 40 chaos. When a person pays, they put down 40 chaos and buy it. You can perhaps have 3 different currencies per item listed. If you will only accept a pure ex, only put down 1 pure ex. We can also currency exchanges set up, and you can maybe put up 3 exes and state you will exchange for 12 gcp, 40 chaos, etc, then use the 40 chaos to buy something in an auction where the guy will only take 40 chaos.	Posted by Saboth#4557 on Jul 25, 2013, 4:02:24 PM Quote this Post
" snapple99 wrote: " ScrotieMcB wrote: The reason Diablo 3's economy went to shit wasn't the RMAH, and it wasn't people trading big items on the AH. It was precisely the ability to trade "mid-range gear" (actually crap, but usable crap) for convenience value, when normally people would spend a day or so farming for it. Thus, instead of farming for usable crap and trading for big-ticket items, you literally bought everything off of the AH, and never self-found anything ever. I've never played D3 so I can't comment but you're not the first person who's said that. I certainly agree that "farm for gold to buy my gear" is not an exciting game mechanic for an ARPG. What I don't understand is how that's different than POE. That's exactly my POE experience. I farm for pretty colors which I reduce down to gold at the vendor then I buy my gear in "the economy". Never once have I self-found anything past the time when actual affixes mattered. In PoE, you tend not to trade for pre-map gear, unless it's some elite low-level PvP stuff. In Diablo 3, I really do mean that it was more efficient to trade for everything, even a decent weapon for a level 20 character. Let's say vendor price is 10 Alteration Shards, there would be very solid rare weapons on the AH with a buyout 1-2 Alterations, instantly and searchably. I understand that third-party shop indexers are already giving PoE some of that "auction house economy" feel, but doing things like D3 would be taking it to a whole other level. The primary two myths believed by "Diablo 3 buyout" supporters are: Myth: If a buyout system was implemented I'd be able to sell all those decent rares in my stash for loads of currency and be rich. Truth: The decent rares in your stash are in fact amazingly common, thus you'd have a flooded market and still get virtually nothing for them (slightly more than vendor). Myth: If a buyout system was implemented I'd be able to get decent gear cheap and the game would be a lot more fun. Truth: You would be able to get decent gear cheaper, but since it would be the death of self-found farming, most likely not more fun. When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted. Last edited by ScrotieMcB#2697 on Jul 25, 2013, 4:32:55 PM	Posted by ScrotieMcB#2697 on Jul 25, 2013, 4:21:08 PM Quote this Post