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Zoen wrote:
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DareDog wrote:
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Zoen wrote:
Funny how the only uniques you consider "useful" are those that have no penalty and are what people would use in end-game content and not those you would use for, say, leveling up a new character.
Also quite surprised Redbeak isn't up there because it's quite useful for low life builds, just like Wondertrap.
Not every unique has to be some über powerful item that'll only see end-game use, because then that's all people will look for, and that's not GGG's design philosophy.
I have to point out that there is a huge difference between 6S items like Soul Mantle and 3S Redbeak.
Redbeak is not best in slot but nobody cares since you can grab it if you don't have anything better and throw away with no regrets once you get something better. Infernal Mantle is a different story since you have to at least 5L it to reap the benefits. Not to mention you have to make significant build decisions based on this item alone.
In later case the item has to be something really amazing or it won't be worth the investment. I could make a case for Soul Mantle, since 50% multiplicative damage increase is nothing to sneeze at, but Infernal Mantle is not something I would go out of my way to get.
Funny, because I have a low life Witch who uses dual Redbeaks, Wondertrap, and Pain Attunement. +230% spell damage at all times is nothing to sneeze at, either. On top of that, she doesn't need to have a single spell supported with 5 support gems to actually stand a chance anywhere and end up with a spell that'll cost a fourth of her mana pool per use, and then turn around and effortlessly kill herself on a reflect pack.
Now if she were a Fire Witch, imagine how deadly dual Redbeak + Soul Mantle + Pain Attunement would calculate to.
Redbeak is a very very effective dps boost for low life builds. A wand CAN beat it, but only with mods that won't roll on a wand until 60+, when they roll over 100% spell dmg, or like 60 spell dmg + cast speed + crit
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Posted byReal_Wolf#6784on Jul 17, 2013, 9:56:28 PM
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Real_Wolf wrote:
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Zoen wrote:
Funny, because I have a low life Witch who uses dual Redbeaks, Wondertrap, and Pain Attunement. +230% spell damage at all times is nothing to sneeze at, either. On top of that, she doesn't need to have a single spell supported with 5 support gems to actually stand a chance anywhere and end up with a spell that'll cost a fourth of her mana pool per use, and then turn around and effortlessly kill herself on a reflect pack.
Now if she were a Fire Witch, imagine how deadly dual Redbeak + Soul Mantle + Pain Attunement would calculate to.
Redbeak is a very very effective dps boost for low life builds. A wand CAN beat it, but only with mods that won't roll on a wand until 60+, when they roll over 100% spell dmg, or like 60 spell dmg + cast speed + crit
Precisely. And on top of that, Redbeak is usable from level 1, and Crown of Thorns is usable at the same point. It's fun being able to destroy Merveil in a matter of seconds on a spellcaster.
The only other thing I've noticed at that low of a level that has an equivalent/faster speed against Normal Merveil is a Facebreaker build.
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Posted byZoen#1376on Jul 17, 2013, 11:07:45 PM
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Now if she were a Fire Witch, imagine how deadly dual Redbeak + Soul Mantle + Pain Attunement would calculate to.
Low life build = shavronnes.
Otherwise you are doomed wondering Lunaris Temple in complete darkness to the end of your days
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Posted bydima_dunedin#7869on Jul 18, 2013, 3:13:51 AM
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Zoen wrote:
Funny, because I have a low life Witch who uses dual Redbeaks, Wondertrap, and Pain Attunement. +230% spell damage at all times is nothing to sneeze at, either. On top of that, she doesn't need to have a single spell supported with 5 support gems to actually stand a chance anywhere and end up with a spell that'll cost a fourth of her mana pool per use, and then turn around and effortlessly kill herself on a reflect pack.
Now if she were a Fire Witch, imagine how deadly dual Redbeak + Soul Mantle + Pain Attunement would calculate to.
Due to the stacking mechanic your Redbeak will be easily outperformed by a +20%Casting Speed wand with any half-decent damage roll.
Don't get me wrong, Redbeak is a great item for a low life witch. Even more than that while levelling. Just not THE item.
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Posted byDareDog#6481on Jul 19, 2013, 8:05:24 AM
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