Why most of 'Unique' items suck so hard?

I don't understand. All the items you listed are awesome in their own right.

Sure, some are levelling uniques. But considering the entire game is about levelling up, having an item that is of a large benefit while levelling up sounds like a good item.

Things like thousand ribbon is definitely not a lategame item. Why should it be? Why should we not be able to use items?

Someone brought up crown of thorns, I remember using that item on my low life build, for a life based character, as it allowed me to get pain attunement without having to go across the entire tree to nodes I didn't want. It was quite valuable.

Things are good, you are just.... not looking at its potential value.


There are SOME uniques which are not valuable at all, but so far you haven'ta ctually listed any of them. All you have done is make sweeping statements which are untrue, and said "every unique should be BiS or ridiculously powerful"
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CharanJaydemyr wrote:
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omgzal123 wrote:


I am suggesting that lvling items should be more interesting and Unique such as Tabula Rasa.


Tabula Rasa certainly is unique and interesting.

But not every low level unique can be fashioned in the same way. Thousand Ribbons is just as interesting and unique to me -- it has a support gem function that is actually drop only (elemental proliferation), it adds damage types...these are pretty crazy.

In fact, Tabula Rasa is far inferior to Thousand Ribbons for its level, given that you cannot even equip Support Gems until level 12, and overdoing it without pretty twinky gear would make the mana cost of a skill become absolutely impossible to sustain. If I had to choose between Tabula Rasa and Thousand Ribbons for leveling up from level 1, I'd take Thousand Ribbons any day. It's MUCH more powerful at low level than Tabula Rasa, but Tabula Rasa has massive potential well beyond its level.

In that way, they're both good, interesting low level uniques.

Do not use any one 'low level unique' as the standard for all the others. That's just setting things up for disaster, because let's face it, your idea of 'unique' and 'interesting' is just that: one person's idea of 'unique' and 'interesting'.

As this thread has shown, others have different ideas.

Your opening title of 'suck so hard' didn't exactly help.

Basically, the reason I dismissed this thread so quickly (and probably should have left it at that) is because the tone is negative and is based on an assumption that your opinion is fact.

It isn't.

Also, you've completely overlooked the potential of low level items in races, but that's a whole other can of worms that a person such as yourself, who may never have to actually balance this game as a whole and can instead just complain about very limited personal experiences, need not worry about.


Well maybe because when i am playing lvl 70+ maps i dont expect to get some lvl 10 'unique' items that i will never use/sell ? Thats the most frustrating part i just want make one good character (as probably most of people that play this game) so i dont care about all the lvling gear that drop in end-game maps and its sold to vendor.

Thats why i really like cool items such a Tabula Rasa in fact i really think that there should be like 5-10 lvling items that would be interesting the same way as Tabula Rasa or make it so the lvling gear would not drop in hight lvl maps.

Plus the idea of lvl 1 to 20 items is just stupid as it take maybe 30 min to do so...

Each league can have different set of unique so its not a problem to put all this crappy gear in races.

Anyway if all the Unique items are interesting and cool and everything is great with them then why NO ONE WANT TO BUY THEM ? Ohhh well no one even want to take them FOR FREE thats how i judged that they must suck and thats why my opinion is a fact. This is not even worth for people to trade items that will less them for 20min.
Some items drop more than others. Not everyone only plays one character.

If it wasn't on standard, I'd buy it from you.
While I often don't see the value of some unique items, the ones you listed clearly are useful.
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Yeah, some only last from level one (or 5) to level 20 or something - so what. I like Quill Rain for levelling up because it saves me a lot of running around
. I find that useful. Even though I'm playing for some months now, I haven't found the turbo path to reaching level 20 in 30 minutes, yet.

As for those items dropping in high level areas - that's so they can have high ilevels and spawn 6 sockets. There are builds that use Quill Rain for end game - surely they'd like to be able to have it as the 6S variant.
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So you, personaly, plan on only ever playing one build on one character, so you feel that no one else in the game should be allowed to find unique items that don't benefit their character?

Next you will complain about having a unique like thunderfist drop, because you are a caster, so its useless to you so the fact it is dropping is a waste of your time.

So confused
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Real_Wolf wrote:
So you, personaly, plan on only ever playing one build on one character, so you feel that no one else in the game should be allowed to find unique items that don't benefit their character?

Next you will complain about having a unique like thunderfist drop, because you are a caster, so its useless to you so the fact it is dropping is a waste of your time.

So confused


What ? Seriously have you read what i said? NO ONE WANT TO BUY OR EVEN GET THIS CRAP FOR FREE. Maybe those items are good in some other league/racing/whatever ? But i dont care about them as i DONT PLAY THEM?

I spammed $ for like 60min with my epic great unique items and got 0 whispers so yea. A lot of people what those items i see... ohh well just kidding.
i agree that there are some really crappy uniques that need to be pimped, but almost everyone YOU (OP) mentioned here is a good one, rofl.
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omgzal123 wrote:
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Real_Wolf wrote:
So you, personaly, plan on only ever playing one build on one character, so you feel that no one else in the game should be allowed to find unique items that don't benefit their character?

Next you will complain about having a unique like thunderfist drop, because you are a caster, so its useless to you so the fact it is dropping is a waste of your time.

So confused


What ? Seriously have you read what i said? NO ONE WANT TO BUY OR EVEN GET THIS CRAP FOR FREE. Maybe those items are good in some other league/racing/whatever ? But i dont care about them as i DONT PLAY THEM?

I spammed $ for like 60min with my epic great unique items and got 0 whispers so yea. A lot of people what those items i see... ohh well just kidding.


So you are saying no one wants to buy using the terrible trade chat channel that no one uses to buy uniques?

I buy my uniques by saying "WTB" or else surfing forum trades, there is nothing to benefit by watching the trade chat.

Your unique items aren't super rare, they are easy to find, worth maybe an alch or two.

So now are you unhappy that you can't sell the unique, not that it isn't good
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omgzal123 wrote:
I am suggesting that lvling items should be more interesting and Unique such as Tabula Rasa.


Tabula Rasa isn't a leveling item. In fact, for most low-level chars, it'll be significantly worse than any comparable rare. Tabula Rasa is an endgame item. You use it when you are level 31+ and have access to all the supports, and you have the mana to support a good 6L skill, and you have the defenses to make up for it.

I don't see the problem with twink uniques. They're fine as is, and often useful for low-level farming. There are some, however, like Doedre's Tenure or Crown of Thorns that I have never seen used. They're just... bad.
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