Is there any build that is better than Kripp's Discharge

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Last edited by mazul on Jun 28, 2013, 5:00:23 PM
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TheAnuhart wrote:
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grepman wrote:
ok thanks ! good video

but yeah, you can see benefits of grouping :totems, sparks, enfeeble/ele weakness on her, plus other auras, spectres and multiple targets to choose from for her to spread the damage

it's much harder and deadlier solo though. for example hed prolly have to forego flammability for enfeeble and so on.

(to be fair, I do see that this map had a +%life mod, so it took a bit longer to kill)


There were a few real good smooth ones, which I can't find.
Charge up, run in, discharge and she burned for a ton.
Repeat.

Another here

http://www.twitch.tv/nl_kripp/b/420940481?t=501m

he pretty much spammed LMP fireball from far in this one for 90% of the time. and a guy in their party either died or d/ced....not impressed with this one.

I will stand by my point that one cant really discharge tank temple piety solo :p
Why are so many people talking about kripp's burning discharge? Is he actually showing himself discharging all over his screen on his stream? If so, someone needs to report him to twitch ASAP.
Why do people, when asked to provide better builds, link either:
1) glass cannon-ish SC builds that have way more expensive gear yet still go below 50% life regularly, or
2) the same tired RF spork totem that can't really offscreen bosses anymore, and whose totems don't stand a chance against GMP tittybitches or elemental AoE boss attacks?

I mean there is something to discuss here, but the naysayers are doing pretty badly so far. Only half of the linked builds are at all viable in Onslaught (don't forget the increased attack/cast speed on bosses), most of them still need decked-out gear worth dozens of exalts, whereas CI burning discharge's single most expensive mandatory item is 5L Searing Touch (pull a VOD from when Kripp's current character was like lv50-60 to see what gear he leveled with). Totems are less effective now with the recent Spark nerf, although perhaps still cheaper and easier to play, but they barely do anything to bosses like Megaera or Temple Piety. They just die too quickly.

Re: party auras, actually Kripp runs all he needs off of his char: Grace + Determination + Purity + Discipline. Vitality is pointless because Zealot's Oath would be counterproductive to his build, and Haste wouldn't improve the dps on a skill that can't be spammed (Enduring Cry cooldown remains the bottleneck here). No other auras would affect him at all. The only support his party does, so to say, is Enfeeble.

I think he could improve his single-target DPS if he took LMP out (only one fireball hits the target from afar anyway) and substituted it with something else that actually boosts damage (quality Faster Projectiles comes to mind). What's his ST setup anyway? Fireball + Conc Effect + quality Fire Pen + LMP + Crit Multi (or is it Chance to Ignite?)? Can't find a good quality still of his skill thumbnail where letters would be visible.
<Tyrfalger> Exactly, the next act is going outside Sarn and into those wheat fields (see the map) to become a farmer. Then we can spend our days endlessly farming. Wait a minute...
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Fireball
Fire Pen
LMP
Life Leech
Mana Leech

Sounds bad?

But it allows this http://www.twitch.tv/nl_kripp/b/421386616?t=183m in a no regen.
Casually casual.

Last edited by TheAnuhart on Jun 29, 2013, 10:00:13 AM
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moozooh wrote:
Why do people, when asked to provide better builds, link either:
1) glass cannon-ish SC builds that have way more expensive gear yet still go below 50% life regularly, or
2) the same tired RF spork totem that can't really offscreen bosses anymore, and whose totems don't stand a chance against GMP tittybitches or elemental AoE boss attacks?

I mean there is something to discuss here, but the naysayers are doing pretty badly so far. Only half of the linked builds are at all viable in Onslaught (don't forget the increased attack/cast speed on bosses), most of them still need decked-out gear worth dozens of exalts, whereas CI burning discharge's single most expensive mandatory item is 5L Searing Touch (pull a VOD from when Kripp's current character was like lv50-60 to see what gear he leveled with). Totems are less effective now with the recent Spark nerf, although perhaps still cheaper and easier to play, but they barely do anything to bosses like Megaera or Temple Piety. They just die too quickly.

Re: party auras, actually Kripp runs all he needs off of his char: Grace + Determination + Purity + Discipline. Vitality is pointless because Zealot's Oath would be counterproductive to his build, and Haste wouldn't improve the dps on a skill that can't be spammed (Enduring Cry cooldown remains the bottleneck here). No other auras would affect him at all. The only support his party does, so to say, is Enfeeble.

I think he could improve his single-target DPS if he took LMP out (only one fireball hits the target from afar anyway) and substituted it with something else that actually boosts damage (quality Faster Projectiles comes to mind). What's his ST setup anyway? Fireball + Conc Effect + quality Fire Pen + LMP + Crit Multi (or is it Chance to Ignite?)? Can't find a good quality still of his skill thumbnail where letters would be visible.


As you may have noticed, the claim about being the "best build" is not used specifically for onslaught but in a general sense for all leagues.

This isn't meant to be an intellectual discussion, it was started by a troll for trolling purposes. That it is a trolling thread is emphasized by the fact that the troll stated "is there any build that kills a bunch of monsters quicker?", which would mean that he wrote that he is only interested in highest spike damage. However, keep in mind that he is a troll and therefore intentionally used vague and missleading language to create a reaction.
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1) This build has been around since the discharge buff
2) It's only good in maps because of his insane ES gear
3) Can't block, this makes most other ES builds with the same gear and level way more tanky
4) Shitty single target
5) Enduring Cry when you're almost in melee range is suicidal even with his gear

The build is good, but stop saying he made the most insane build of all time. The opinion of most of Kripp's fans, that say this build is the best, is absolutely worthless because they have never made their own build and don't know anything about it.

Basically, the fact that this is the best build the Kripp fans with no experience at all have seen doesn't mean it's flawless.

I'm just going to mention Aimlessgun's RF Freezing pulse as a build that overcomes every single weakness of this build, while still dealing insane DPS. Sure, Aimlessgun's gear on that char is insane, but FP with good ES, Block and DPS can be played even without insane gear. This build was before the patch, which nerfed it, but it still counts as a solid concept.
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Last edited by Freeslana on Jun 29, 2013, 10:17:18 AM
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TheAnuhart wrote:
Fireball
Fire Pen
LMP
Life Leech
Mana Leech

Sounds bad?

But it allows this http://www.twitch.tv/nl_kripp/b/421386616?t=183m in a no regen.

Yeah, that would be the setup for no-regen maps (although I'd still probably opt for Faster Proj instead of LMP just to be able to keep the distance without suffering much of a dps hit). LMP would only outperform this setup (and even then barely) if you consistently hit a target with 2+ fireballs per cast, which usually doesn't happen. Plus it would perform better against moving targets. Conc Effect would actually make it really potent though, but it needs the sixth link.

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Freeslana wrote:
5) Enduring Cry when you're almost in melee range is suicidal even with his gear

Almost in melee?.. His Enduring Cry covers the whole screen for all the same reasons his Discharge does it: area passives and gem quality.
<Tyrfalger> Exactly, the next act is going outside Sarn and into those wheat fields (see the map) to become a farmer. Then we can spend our days endlessly farming. Wait a minute...
Last edited by moozooh on Jun 29, 2013, 10:39:22 AM
The LMP, as far as I know, serves a simple purpose.

Better to have a spread that one will most likely hit, than having a single, higher damage ball that will most likely miss.

Remember this will be used often in off screening but even when close range (see Kuduko fight) when keeping the character mobile, you won't have a locked target. So again, the spread can be more effective than a single ball.

As for no-regen.
The set up is required for ES leech (LL gem) and mana leech (ML gem).
The build works off a low mana pool with very little regen. It just happens that it is enough to suffice in a non-regen, too.
Casually casual.

Last edited by TheAnuhart on Jun 29, 2013, 10:50:04 AM

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