Performance Conclusion = CPU/RAM more dependant > GPU

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cypherrage wrote:

I'm just going to go ahead and say, from a slightly (and I say slightly) educated perspective, people think that CPU/RAM will typically be the bottleneck in gaming, but nowadays, it is almost always the GPU.

Getting 8 Gigs of RAM is a joke nowadays, and even that much is pretty useless (unless you do some crafty things where you load entire game files into RAM in order to make loading sections of the game instantaneous, tried it with WoW a long time ago, it was nice).

Processors are pretty advanced as well, utilizing multicore/multithreading processes which are ever more efficient (cheap i5 processors are great for any application, even i3's in some cases).

But, what's the one thing that games focus on the most? The graphics, of course, and even a lot of the on screen action is processed by the GPU.

Now, PoE maybe be special, but I can tell you for sure when you are in a full party, granted all the crazy spells (especially lightning strike), summons, etc, it makes for a crazy mess. Maybe it lies in the way they implemented the particle effects, who knows. Sometimes when designing graphics you can take shortcuts, cutting down polygons and/or particle textures while still maintaining a high polished finish. On the flip side, you can use way too many of said textures in something relatively simple, overtaxing your computer.

A real answer would require someone more knowledgeable than myself though. Your test concluded it was NOT in fact the GPU that was the problem.

Your final statement indicates that the Desktop was in fact better. That would indicate the opposite conclusion that you drew, unless you just worded it poorly.

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cypherrage wrote:

I'm just going to go ahead and say, from a slightly (and I say slightly) educated perspective, people think that CPU/RAM will typically be the bottleneck in gaming, but nowadays, it is almost always the GPU.

Getting 8 Gigs of RAM is a joke nowadays, and even that much is pretty useless (unless you do some crafty things where you load entire game files into RAM in order to make loading sections of the game instantaneous, tried it with WoW a long time ago, it was nice).

Processors are pretty advanced as well, utilizing multicore/multithreading processes which are ever more efficient (cheap i5 processors are great for any application, even i3's in some cases).

But, what's the one thing that games focus on the most? The graphics, of course, and even a lot of the on screen action is processed by the GPU.

Now, PoE maybe be special, but I can tell you for sure when you are in a full party, granted all the crazy spells (especially lightning strike), summons, etc, it makes for a crazy mess. Maybe it lies in the way they implemented the particle effects, who knows. Sometimes when designing graphics you can take shortcuts, cutting down polygons and/or particle textures while still maintaining a high polished finish. On the flip side, you can use way too many of said textures in something relatively simple, overtaxing your computer.

A real answer would require someone more knowledgeable than myself though. Your test concluded it was NOT in fact the GPU that was the problem.

Your final statement indicates that the Desktop was in fact better. That would indicate the opposite conclusion that you drew, unless you just worded it poorly.

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zzang wrote:

i use a laptop where games usually run pretty good but i dont understand the fps drops in POE

my speccs are

i7-2630QM 2GHz
Nvidia Geforce GT 540M
8 Gig Ram
Windows 7 64 bit

even when i run everything on low as possible i have fps drops in map partys.

i guess for some reason PoE seem to have a very bad laptop performance

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blitzforce wrote:

After installing PoE on my laptop an hour ago, here's my conclusion

Both with minimum graphical settings


My DESKTOP Specs:

Core 2 Duo E7500 @3 GHz
3 GB of Ram
ATI/AMD 4870 512 RAM
Windows 7 32-bit

Crazy Lag Spikes everytime I lightning strike/ summon skeletons.



My LAPTOP Specs:

i3 2350 @2.3 GHz
4 GB of Ram
INTEL HD 3000 (integrated piece of garbage)
Windows 7 64-bit

Much less Lag spikes compared to my laptop.

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blitzforce wrote:

After installing PoE on my laptop an hour ago, here's my conclusion

Both with minimum graphical settings


My DESKTOP Specs:

Core 2 Duo E7500 @3 GHz
3 GB of Ram
ATI/AMD 4870 512 RAM
Windows 7 32-bit

Crazy Lag Spikes everytime I lightning strike/ summon skeletons.



My LAPTOP Specs:

i3 2350 @2.3 GHz
4 GB of Ram
INTEL HD 3000 (integrated piece of garbage)
Windows 7 64-bit

Much less Lag spikes compared to my laptop.

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Wookiezim wrote:

Your desktop graphics card is from like 2008, you should be rocking like a gtx 460 minimum by now if you want good PC gaming... Probably can't even buy those anymore though... they are so old now haha. So hate to break it to you but your desktop GPU is severely out of date.

With a newer Intel laptop with an i3 2350, you are probably getting very comparable GPU performance even with a integrated graphics card.

Not gonna look up the actual performance numbers but my guess is that the desktop CPU is a bottleneck (too slow), so when combined with a ancient GPU you're going to get bad performance not really that surprising. Kinda sad though if it's even happening on minimum graphic settings, but that just proves your CPU is too slow.

In my experience this game is more GPU demanding if you try to play with maxed out settings. My CPU is Intel 2600k overclocked to 4.3 GHZ and I can tell you without a doubt the game is more dependent on GPU on the high settings.

Meaning you can have a top of the line processor but without a top tier graphics card you can't play on maxed settings.

My bet is you could have a decent processor something like an overclocked AMD Phenom II X4 965 and with a top of the line graphics card you could play with even higher graphic settings.

But at this point the CPU would be coming very close to bottle necking the GPU.

The higher your graphic settings are the more GPU AND CPU work your computer must perform in most modern games.

I think this game is fairly well balanced performance wise, especially after the last patch it seems they are optimizing the graphic performance continually. I think at the end of the day most people are more likely to run into performance issues caused by GPU, at least playing with maxed settings.

If you can't play smoothly with lowest graphic settings you just need a new computer straight up.