THUNDERFIST and static blows question

I read on some wiki about shock that crit chance helps guarantee shock status ailment on a target.

Is this true?

Does getting more crit chance help with applying shock status?

Because the consensus on this thread thus far has been that damage scales with shock threshold.
Meeting a minimum lightning damage threshold which is scaled with the target hp raises the chance to apply shock.

As such, my question is now specifically:
Does crit chance increase shock chance by increasing the lightning damage, or is there a separate mechanism of crit processing shock?

"

Castablanca wrote:

I read on some wiki about shock that crit chance helps guarantee shock status ailment on a target.

Is this true?

Does getting more crit chance help with applying shock status?

Because the consensus on this thread thus far has been that damage scales with shock threshold.
Meeting a minimum lightning damage threshold which is scaled with the target hp raises the chance to apply shock.

As such, my question is now specifically:
Does crit chance increase shock chance by increasing the lightning damage, or is there a separate mechanism of crit processing shock?

Crits guarantee the following status effects: Freeze, Burn, and Shock, depending on your elemental damage.

Duration of shock and freeze depends on the elemental damage dealt to the target as a % of its max HP. If the duration is too low, the effects will not proc.

Duration of burn is set at 4 seconds, and deals a % of the fire damage dealt during that time.

"

Novalisk wrote:

"

Castablanca wrote:

I read on some wiki about shock that crit chance helps guarantee shock status ailment on a target.

Is this true?

Does getting more crit chance help with applying shock status?

Because the consensus on this thread thus far has been that damage scales with shock threshold.
Meeting a minimum lightning damage threshold which is scaled with the target hp raises the chance to apply shock.

As such, my question is now specifically:
Does crit chance increase shock chance by increasing the lightning damage, or is there a separate mechanism of crit processing shock?

Crits guarantee the following status effects: Freeze, Burn, and Shock, depending on your elemental damage.

Duration of shock and freeze depends on the elemental damage dealt to the target as a % of its max HP. If the duration is too low, the effects will not proc.

Duration of burn is set at 4 seconds, and deals a % of the fire damage dealt during that time.

Crits guarantee shock. But is it required?
I have basically no crit chance on my gear or passives, but I stack +% elemental damage.
My crit chance is very low (5.8%).
Can I still apply shock effectively (using Thunderfist and static blows)?

Yes you can, Static Blows with high lightning damage guarantees good shock effectiveness. crit will definitely give you a bit extra, though you will likely miss more often without resolute technique which hurts shock effectiveness.

"

Novalisk wrote:

Yes you can, Static Blows with high lightning damage guarantees good shock effectiveness. crit will definitely give you a bit extra, though you will likely miss more often without resolute technique which hurts shock effectiveness.

what if I had this ideal setup:

Lioneye's Glare (don't miss) + Thunderfist + Static Blows + Maxed out Elemental Damage.
(but with zero crit chance bonuses).

"

Castablanca wrote:

"

Novalisk wrote:

Yes you can, Static Blows with high lightning damage guarantees good shock effectiveness. crit will definitely give you a bit extra, though you will likely miss more often without resolute technique which hurts shock effectiveness.

what if I had this ideal setup:

Lioneye's Glare (don't miss) + Thunderfist + Static Blows + Maxed out Elemental Damage.
(but with zero crit chance bonuses).

Add Wrath on top of that and you should do great.

*popcorn*

dont speak to me like that ever again so much fun

whatcha gonna do hit the report button pm angry henry to erase posts ohh wait that inexiums style

patch notes are out.
this whole thread goes to crap.

who knows what static blows will be like in a month. just great.

the more I think about this item, the more I think how difficult it is to make a decent build.

The real killer is the 100% increased shock duration. There's only 60% ISD on the passive tree as far as I can see, so this is huge even for a spellcaster build. As other people said, the amount of lightning damage you need to deal with all this ISD is just a fraction of 1% of monster life. The main issue is to smooth out the RNG when it comes to shock/crit rolls. You could do something like:

<Ranged attack> + Elemental Proliferation + LMP/GMP + Chain/Fork

or

<Melee attack> + El Prol + Multistrike + WED/Melee Splash

and run Wrath aura. Whatever you do, if you hit a dense enough pack you will triple-shock everything very quickly. Actually as a bow/wand user you could just put a ranged attack totem with Lightning Arrow + LMP/GMP + El Prol there to make a 'shock totem', then use some 6L elsewhere as your main attack with more of a focus on raw damage output. This way you could deal some pretty extreme damage.