Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

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oranged wrote:

Ok so the game developers stated that they want the game to have this "exile" feel to it. They made FFA loot to give the game that type of atmosphere. That's the atmosphere the developers want. That's the atmosphere that I find fun, since I find that fun, I play this game. If you do not find that type atmosphere fun, then, do not play the game. Problem solved.

are you the owner of the company? if not then you cant' post BS like that sorry
if you are the senior developer then post with your real account
and i have to remind you sadly that this post STARTED from the chief game developer

now crawl back to your cave please

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wrathmar wrote:

Players who dislike FFA > Players who like FFA

You are in the minority and if the Devs attempt for force the majority of players into a play style that they do not enjoy they will leave.

So why are you still playing the game then?

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killbilly wrote:

are you the owner of the company?

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Chris wrote:

It's important to us that Path of Exile has a cut-throat feel where players are not only competing against monsters, but also their fellow players.

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oranged wrote:

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killbilly wrote:

are you the owner of the company?

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Chris wrote:

It's important to us that Path of Exile has a cut-throat feel where players are not only competing against monsters, but also their fellow players.

lol... OoOooooooh


KillBilly got burned on that one... :D.

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oranged wrote:

So why are you still playing the game then?

I would reword that statement to say "they will be further encouraged to leave." There are many games I play that have things wrong with them, yet I stay because the underlying game is fun. Enforcing a certain playstyle isn't a great design choice though. You see plenty of that on the forums in fact. Example: Many people are upset because they are encouraged to pick up as much defense as possible. Limiting player choice in that regard.

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mibuwolf wrote:

I have to agree. I'm hearing slippery slopes as arguments, as well as circular logic. I'd rather hear something more concrete.

Some of you say "looting system is perfect."

Some of you have said "can't have options because X." but we already explained why you can.

It's frustrating to see fallacies as arguments.

Example is right here:

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nil4t wrote:

maybe they should just make a new league called ultra baby core for the people who cant handle any kind challenge or difficulty in their gameing and instead of being POE it could just link you to a copy of peggle extreme.

what is said is a perfectly valid solution
you cant have options to make the game easier for people that choose to in the same league as people who do not choose to without at least some sort of penalty for choosing the easier option(example: account bound loot)
otherwise they would have an advantage and everyone would end up choosing the easier option simply because it would be more efficient to make currency that way.

so then the other option is having a separate league and the one i suggested sounds pretty solid to me.

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nil4t wrote:

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wrathmar wrote:

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oranged wrote:

Ok so the game developers stated that they want the game to have this "exile" feel to it. They made FFA loot to give the game that type of atmosphere. That's the atmosphere the developers want. That's the atmosphere that I find fun, since I find that fun, I play this game. If you do not find that type atmosphere fun, then, do not play the game. Problem solved.

Players who dislike FFA > Players who like FFA

You are in the minority and if the Devs attempt for force the majority of players into a play style that they do not enjoy they will leave.

maybe it was in one of the 800 pages past but do we actually know that people who dislike FFA are the majority? and if so by how much? I am sure they wouldn't want to lose any of their player base.

maybe they should just make a new league called ultra baby core for the people who cant handle any kind challenge or difficulty in their gameing and instead of being POE it could just link you to a copy of peggle extreme.

ok i bite

lets start from the beginning and i will say that really really slow to you also

FFA
HAS
NOTHING
TO
DO
WITH
PLAYER
SKILLS
AND
IS
NOT
EAZY
LOOT
.
LOOT
IS
THE
REWARD
FOR
KILLING
A
MOB

got it?

if i outdps your crappy char 1000 times while in FFA i am not getting rewarded, i have to deliver MORE in order to get loot...while your carebear noob char gets all loot with a max life/max resist gear/spec that deals 50dps (in merci)

beat it child your facts are blatant (at least)

FFA is an ENFORCED PvP System , nothing MORE nothing LESS
FFA brings ONLY Grief and promotes lootwhorism, nothing more nothing LESS

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mibuwolf wrote:

They must have modified their vision then, because timers were added to FFA to answer player feedback. I guess you just don't understand the point of player feedback. Do you?

Sure, but they have since stated (repeatedly) that the system is a compromise and that it is not intended to be changed. I'm sorry you don't like it, but I hope it remains that way.

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oranged wrote:

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wrathmar wrote:

Players who dislike FFA > Players who like FFA

So why are you still playing the game then?

I would like to see him or anyone esle actually prove that. "Players who dislike FFA > Players who like FFA".



Theres no way to prove that. This threads high post count does not even come close to proving that.

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oranged wrote:

I bet if they never change it, only a very small percentage of people would actually leave.

It's so easy to make bets with other peoples money