Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

GGG

the fact we're stuck with basically copying a game that came out 10 years ago, is absurd - you guys can do alot better then this.

public games should be fun, seeing another player in game, should be a welcoming feeling, not a feeling of dread.
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jeffadkins51 wrote:
When you're close to an enemy and it drops an item which is assigned to you in a public group, you literally have a second or less to click on it.

I was just in a party that finished act 1 cruel, we were fighting our way to act 2 town when all of a sudden a Greater Multiple Projectiles drops at my feet with my name on it. I was so excited, I had an instant rush of adrenaline and as I shot my mouse cursor to it... it went public and someone else grabbed it instantly... At which point they told us all it was a 16% Quality GMP.............

You can imagine how crushing this was, well, is, it just happened. I went from being super excited to play the game, to playing the game and being super excited, to seeing that thing drop and being so excited my head could explode, to... depressed and sad....

It seems like if you're going to assign drops to people specifically then they should have more than 1 second or less to click the item, especially with how hard it can be to find that camo'd cursor (it really does blend in).

I wouldn't be sad or depressed at all if it were a general drop and not assigned to me, I'd just be like "wow, grats to whoever got that, that's awesome" and move on wishing I were faster. But the fact that it was assigned to me and yet I didn't get it, because I couldn't get my cursor to it in under a second... man.... now I just feel bad :(

Please either remove this feature completely and make every drop a complete free for all, or increase the timers for the item assignments, because the way it's setup right now it just crushes people and makes them want to go do something other than play this game


II feel you... That's why only solo and you will never lose a qual gmp again
When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself
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Kunaak wrote:
GGG

the fact we're stuck with basically copying a game that came out 10 years ago, is absurd - you guys can do alot better then this.

public games should be fun, seeing another player in game, should be a welcoming feeling, not a feeling of dread.


And the sadest part is that they copied the worst parts
Ffa and trading spam.. I am sure if Poe becomes popular d2jsp will come
When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself
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killbilly wrote:
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jeffadkins51 wrote:
When you're close to an enemy and it drops an item which is assigned to you in a public group, you literally have a second or less to click on it.

I was just in a party that finished act 1 cruel, we were fighting our way to act 2 town when all of a sudden a Greater Multiple Projectiles drops at my feet with my name on it. I was so excited, I had an instant rush of adrenaline and as I shot my mouse cursor to it... it went public and someone else grabbed it instantly... At which point they told us all it was a 16% Quality GMP.............

You can imagine how crushing this was, well, is, it just happened. I went from being super excited to play the game, to playing the game and being super excited, to seeing that thing drop and being so excited my head could explode, to... depressed and sad....

It seems like if you're going to assign drops to people specifically then they should have more than 1 second or less to click the item, especially with how hard it can be to find that camo'd cursor (it really does blend in).

I wouldn't be sad or depressed at all if it were a general drop and not assigned to me, I'd just be like "wow, grats to whoever got that, that's awesome" and move on wishing I were faster. But the fact that it was assigned to me and yet I didn't get it, because I couldn't get my cursor to it in under a second... man.... now I just feel bad :(

Please either remove this feature completely and make every drop a complete free for all, or increase the timers for the item assignments, because the way it's setup right now it just crushes people and makes them want to go do something other than play this game


II feel you... That's why only solo and you will never lose a qual gmp again


Sigh... Yeah, I enjoy playing with other people, it makes the game more fun... but at the same time, my god, how many exalted did I just lose because of this silly loot system.... Since I only have like 3 fusing and a chaos to my name at the moment it makes it even harder to just keep going, that was a pretty big hit... Guess I'm playing solo til they fix this :(

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killbilly wrote:
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Kunaak wrote:
GGG

the fact we're stuck with basically copying a game that came out 10 years ago, is absurd - you guys can do alot better then this.

public games should be fun, seeing another player in game, should be a welcoming feeling, not a feeling of dread.


And the sadest part is that they copied the worst parts
Ffa and trading spam.. I am sure if Poe becomes popular d2jsp will come


I've been a member of d2jsp since 2003 (look up my username here, it's the same) and sadly GGG has very clearly stated that anyone caught using d2jsp will be banned. They don't want the game going pay to win and you could theoretically buy gold on diablo 3 with x amount of money (anywhere from $1 to $1,000,000) and sell it on d2jsp, at which point you could then use the forum gold to purchase path of exile items, thus, making it a pay to win game with a real money auction house, in a round about way. So, while I am a supporter and advocate for d2jsp, I am not for this game, sure it makes trading etc a lot easier, far superior in fact as far as I'm concerned, but, at the risk of being banned it's simply not worth it. I highly advise you do not use d2jsp for this game :(
"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
-Friedrich Nietzsche

@RasalGhulAvenged
Old school loot for whore ...
Remove this f***ing useless timer (5sec RLY?)...

Please just help the player to loot his own item after that i don't care about how people pick so many chromatic orb an how to make good item with superior white drop not reserved. :)

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NukhaPE wrote:
Old school loot for whore ...
Remove this f***ing useless timer (5sec RLY?)...

Please just help the player to loot his own item after that i don't care about how people pick so many chromatic orb an how to make good item with superior white drop not reserved. :)



Ok, can someone 'paraphrase' this for me?
IGN: Mibuwolf
Last edited by mibuwolf#7946 on Mar 2, 2013, 7:03:27 PM
Good news, the second thread locked in Beta Discussion is "dont post new posts about loot anymore." Hopefully this will lead to a revision of current loot system.

Single player loot is broken, party loot is only good for quick tanky builds which can risk their life for every drop. Ranged, squishy, slow - you are screwed. Expect to have all your loot stolen by quick meaty tanks. This is the current state of events it seems.

I honestly dont understand what precludes devs from giving party leader an option to extend or remove loot timers as the group sees fit. How much rage and aggravation have been caused by stolen loot! I mean you play for days/weeks and then you see that lionsglare snatched away from you... will make most people stop playing cold.

Having lost a 16% GMP is discouraging for sure. Stories like this repeating every second. Who wins? some guy that steals another person's loot. Thieves are rewarded. Stealing is encouraged.

Partying is not welcome. Party members are not welcome, they are all potential thieves. But without party members in solo game you get nothing, so have to go in party. Steal or be screwed.... Get quick char, strong, fast, tanky, steal everything!!! Did you just tell me "fuck you" for taking your orb? no, fuck YOU asshole!!

Good game....
Last edited by BigBadWolf1776#2295 on Mar 2, 2013, 7:52:06 PM
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BigBadWolf1776 wrote:
Good news, the second thread locked in Beta Discussion is "dont post new posts about loot anymore." Hopefully this will lead to a revision of current loot system.

Single player loot is broken, party loot is only good for quick tanky builds which can risk their life for every drop. Ranged, squishy, slow - you are screwed. Expect to have all your loot stolen by quick meaty tanks. This is the current state of events it seems.

I honestly dont understand what precludes devs from giving party leader an option to extend or remove loot timers as the group sees fit. How much rage and aggravation have been caused by stolen loot! I mean you play for days/weeks and then you see that lionsglare snatched away from you... will make most people stop playing cold.

Having lost a 16% GMP is discouraging for sure. Stories like this repeating every second. Who wins? some guy that steals another person's loot. Thieves are rewarded. Stealing is encouraged.

Partying is not welcome. Party members are not welcome, they are all potential thieves. But without party members in solo game you get nothing, so have to go in party. Steal or be screwed.... Get quick char, strong, fast, tanky, steal everything!!! Did you just tell me "fuck you" for taking your orb? no, fuck YOU asshole!!

Good game....


lol, this^
"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
-Friedrich Nietzsche

@RasalGhulAvenged
I dont know if its a bug, or if I'm being hacked, but the current party loot system sucks. I see a loot drop in my name, I click on it, my character runs over to it and stops, waits for the timer to time out and someone else ninjas my loot. This is the same story over and over every time I group. At the same time I feel like my loot drops are being gimped when I run solo. I've leveled 2 characters to 60+ and not seen a single 5link anything while running +100% rarity for the majority of the time. All of this leaves my feeling unrewarded.
I counter your proposal with this: the super easy league where you push a single button and it tells you that you have won.
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BigBadWolf1776 wrote:

Partying is not welcome. Party members are not welcome, they are all potential thieves. But without party members in solo game you get nothing, so have to go in party. Steal or be screwed....


And the most saddening thing is that that is exactly the "loot tension" that GGG wants.
In a very grind heavy game the death penalty equates to...more grinding.

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