Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

Create your own group with looting rules kicking while required, play with friend, play alone, there are enough mannered players so you should not suffer the ninja looting.
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Hitman_MT wrote:
The Loot system atm sucks big ass. In ANY group are some ninja looters they take all the stuff for themself. They dont want share, have no sense for honor or common social behavior. They just very selfish and dont care about other and steal all they can get. And the current loot system says "ok, do so. you have nothing to fear" and they do so and robbing our loot.
This system support bad behavior!
I play ALOT MMO´s and sadly i need to say this game got by far the WORST loot system i ever see.
This destroys alot of fun to group with people because i know i never will get any item. Iam a ranger and the loot timer is faster gone as i can reach the item!
just increase the loot timer more then double or lets roll for the items like in other games.
Iam lv 56 now and dont even have an exalt because this greedy selfish loot kids steal all the items.
This treath got more then 650 replys. Its a big concern and something must be done!
if you dont set rules to people they will do anything to sadisfy there own selfish greed. They just dont care if they steal or not. In our todays society dont think about humanity, honor, fairness or justice. it dont exist. Even less in a computer game where you be anonymus...

sorry for the grammar. English is not my main language. I hope you understand my point :)


While partially being against the FFA loot system, I really seeing why it hard for many people to agree with you - This isn't an MMO therefore a loot roll each time something useful drops is great for mmorpg games this is supposed to be action, There are currently 3 known ways to do it for this type of games as far as I'm aware: 1) FFA loot (like now), 2) Hidden and private loot for each player or 3) Like in guild wars 1 where you see the item but it's reserved until someone picks it and drops it.
I personally would prefer the 3rd.

My bigger problem in all this story is the people who so oppose the idea me and many other suggested before - an option to select which type you want upon creating a party get bashed so badly by so called hard-core players with a very narrow point of view which sums up mainly with: "I like the loot as is so your idea sucks and gtfo".
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Pouloum wrote:
Create your own group with looting rules kicking while required, play with friend, play alone, there are enough mannered players so you should not suffer the ninja looting.
even 1 ninja looter is enough to make a person stop playing if the right item is stolen. And when a unique falls and someone ninja it... Well if its a group of asshole friends then man it can create shitloads of drama (remember the people killing people irl for an item in game?)



Also, I don't know what other people play games for - But I personally play for my pure enjoyment and what I want at that time. So for me seeing how a totally cut-throat atmosphere can be good for the game or community totally deludes me. And while many people say that if you want a fun and not hard game gtfo, i'd say if I want a real cut-throat or really hard game i'd go play a rogue-like game instead. I personally want action with actual difficulty BUT not with mechanics but with the content.
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Last edited by Kirazor#5480 on Feb 25, 2013, 10:14:22 AM
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Pouloum wrote:
Create your own group with looting rules kicking while required, play with friend, play alone, there are enough mannered players so you should not suffer the ninja looting.


so you purpose that the community should fix the crap dev shoved at us?
no sir we are here to provide feedback, we have posted countless times that FFA system has more negative effects in the gameplay than IL and we have proved that IL has only positive effects.

the community shouldnt' fix all the problems of a game in the end for US (customers/players) PoE should be fun but for THEM (GGG,Devs) is BUSINESS

this is the HARD truth

in the end we are PAYING to have FUN and GGG is GETTING payed to give us FUN, not TEACH us WHAT fun is...

end of story
When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself
So tired of making multi-paragraph arguments on this subject, only to have them ignored by loud, angry trolls. So, yeah, let's just join the masses and start shouting at each other.

GAY MARRIAGE!!!

...oh, oops. Wrong thread...

...or is it?
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Pouloum wrote:
Create your own group with looting rules kicking while required, play with friend, play alone, there are enough mannered players so you should not suffer the ninja looting.

Giving an easier control over the desired party options will help greatly to improve quality of parties and will not hurt the people who so desire ffa loot. so I find your post written with a narrow view of your own opinion.
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killbilly wrote:


so you purpose that the community should fix the crap dev shoved at us?
no sir we are here to provide feedback, we have posted countless times that FFA system has more negative effects in the gameplay than IL and we have proved that IL has only positive effects.

the community shouldnt' fix all the problems of a game in the end for US (customers/players) PoE should be fun but for THEM (GGG,Devs) is BUSINESS

this is the HARD truth

in the end we are PAYING to have FUN and GGG is GETTING payed to give us FUN, not TEACH us WHAT fun is...

end of story

So I take it that you agree with the fact that the lack of choice is the limiter rather the way loot is distributed?


EDIT: I forgot to add that I agree with killbilly on the fact that too many games are trying to force us to like the system they created. (diablo 3, guild wars 2 and many more modern ideas) and yet the most successful idea in the industry today is giving more choice to more people as much as physically possible.
For some gaming industry gaming information and to just learn more about games check out

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Last edited by Kirazor#5480 on Feb 25, 2013, 11:43:11 AM
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XCodes wrote:
So tired of making multi-paragraph arguments on this subject, only to have them ignored by loud, angry trolls. So, yeah, let's just join the masses and start shouting at each other.

GAY MARRIAGE!!!

...oh, oops. Wrong thread...

...or is it?

WOO!! wait what?
For some gaming industry gaming information and to just learn more about games check out

http://extra-credits.net/ - One of the most informative websites about the gaming industry.
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Kirazor wrote:
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Pouloum wrote:
Create your own group with looting rules kicking while required, play with friend, play alone, there are enough mannered players so you should not suffer the ninja looting.

Giving an easier control over the desired party options will help greatly to improve quality of parties and will not hurt the people who so desire ffa loot. so I find your post written with a narrow view of your own opinion.
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killbilly wrote:


so you purpose that the community should fix the crap dev shoved at us?
no sir we are here to provide feedback, we have posted countless times that FFA system has more negative effects in the gameplay than IL and we have proved that IL has only positive effects.

the community shouldnt' fix all the problems of a game in the end for US (customers/players) PoE should be fun but for THEM (GGG,Devs) is BUSINESS

this is the HARD truth

in the end we are PAYING to have FUN and GGG is GETTING payed to give us FUN, not TEACH us WHAT fun is...

end of story

So I take it that you agree with the fact that the lack of choice is the limiter rather the way loot is distributed?


EDIT: I forgot to add that I agree with killbilly on the fact that too many games are trying to force us to like the system they created. (diablo 3, guild wars 2 and many more modern ideas) and yet the most successful idea in the industry today is giving more choice to more people as much as physically possible.


Yeah I agree totally with loot options to party leader
In fact we ask it since page 200? Maybe less
When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself
i think the big problem is not only for range people, but also with big amount of drops in some situations.
if all the ground is covered of items i need to move in all positions to try to see items and i can easy loose them in a short time

i would like to propose a little announcement on right side (above players join/left party announcements) for only rare/unique/gems/currency. with a short time i can take those items by click on the announcement and not on the ground
-thread/977824 (standard elite shop) ~ -thread/965731 (standard cheap shop)
-thread/965747 (standard flask shop) ~ -thread/1013803 (standard Currency trade)
-thread/1011856 (Rampage shop)
It is so easy.... own loot and thats it. It is really anoying when loot gets stolen every time.
Because of Lags extreme high amount of loot and so on....

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